World No. 2 Effort From Lotte Friis Kicks off USA Swimming Pro Series in Charlotte

Claws at the ready: Lotte Friis in Danish war paint ready for the fight -By Patrick B. Kraemer

Lotte Friis and Connor Jaeger won distance events on the opening night of the USA Swimming Pro Series stop in Charlotte.

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Lotte Friis and Connor Jaeger won distance events on the opening night of the USA Swimming Pro Series stop in Charlotte.

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Yozhik

I like Lotte Friis very much. I like her for her efforts. I like her for her attitude in the pool. But most of all I like her for what she does for many long distance swimmers. She gives a hope. There is a strong opinion among competitive swimming followers that long distance swimmer has to retire from completion after getting 17-18 years old unless they have nothing else to do with their lives. Have to retire because the history of competition at long distances strongly suggest that it would be only a decline from what was accomplished as a teenager. But look at Friis. At 25 there was a firework exhibition given by her at 1500 and 800 races including breaking a world record. I am sincerely sorry that she missed the podium at Olympics being deceived by Ledecky’s pace of 4:04 at first half. But it was not her fault. Nobody took Katie seriously that time, couldn’t foresee what was coming and didn’t bother to learn how to race her properly. Therefore the person who didn’t consider herself in the race for the first 550m suddenly got an open water for the silver medal. Lette will be 28 at Rio but nobody will exclude her from the medal contender list. Let’s wish her the best.

Yozhik

Correction. There was a typo. Should be competition instead of completion. Autocorrect sometimes does such jokes.

Danjohnrob

@Yozhik: I agree completely! I’d just like to add that, finding herself losing to Ledecky twice (Friis won 2 silver medals in Barcelona), Lotte didn’t give up. Instead, she decided to try different training approaches by moving to the US and training at NBAC. I don’t know if she can beat Katie, but I hope she gets some big time drops in Kazan to justify all her hard work the last two years!

beachmouse

Too bad that Becca Mann didn’t chase the second American spot in the 1500M free last summer. She probably had a better shot in that to hit the podium at WCs than she does in the 800M where she will be entered instead.

Danjohnrob

@beachmouse: I think you’re right. I can only assume she’s focused on the 800 because it’s an Olympic event, but it seems a little too “short” for her.

AvantSwim

A great swim for Friis!

Yozhik

Mr. Danjohnrob (I hope this is mr.) I appreciate your comments and I would like you to know that I feel some guilt of being so undeservedly nasty on you other day. If you can, please accept my apology. I was new at this forum and just followed the style of many of such exchanges between regulars of this site. It was inappropriate (is it a correct usage of this word?) Quod licet Jovi, not licet bovi 🙂

aswimfan

This is a fast swim for her.
I hope and wish Friis to do very well in Kazan, been a fan of hers since sneaked bronze in Beijing. But it will be even much tougher than Barcelona considering age thing for a distance swimmer as Yozhik mentioned above.

Danjohnrob

@Yozhik: No apology is necessary, but I certainly accept yours without reservation. Disagreements are bound to happen in passionate discussion between people from diverse cultural backgrounds, especially when national affiliations are involved. 🙂

jman

the aging issue with distance swimmers has always confused me. The physiology should be similar to runners who excel and improve even into their mid/late 30’s. Is it more an issue to time needed to train?

Jim C

Becca Mann broke the US age group record for the 800 free as a 14 year old in the 2012 trials finishing 5th. She also finished 5th in the 400IM and 6th in the 400 free.

Yozhik

@Danjohnrob. Thank you.
P.S. I am not Russian, but there was a strong reason for me to immigrate from Soviet Union long long time ago.

Yozhik

Jman, this questions bothers me as well. I am more confused with this issue than let’s say with Bob Beamon’s jump or Ye Shiwen’s finish at 400IM. Those quantum leaps are happening so randomly that no statistics can be applied and no conclusion can be drawn from those facts. Since it is not repeatable it is not measurable, so we leave them as they are unexplained. But how come the athlete that comes to his/her prime age cannot compete with a teenager, especially at disciplines where endurance is a major factor. It looks to me so unnatural. There should be an explanation. What kind of changes are happing inside human body that stops the progress of long distance swimmer very quickly after getting mature? The recent examples of Lotte Friis’ longevity reaching 27, Jazmin Carlin’s raise at 24 and Femke Heemskerk’s outburst last 6 months at 27 may suggest that there was no actually reliable statistics that can explain so called “aging issue” and maybe no such things exist at all. May be for instance in lady’s case there is a simple explanation, like in 70s-90s they cared less about swimming after college and concentrated on more important social aspects of their lives. But if indeed some significant changes are happening with nerve and endocrine systems within athlete body with age, then there would be for sure medical attempts to prevent or slow down such processes. Will we consider them a PED? When I was a young boy there were rumors that a body of pregnant woman at a very early stage goes under such changes that allow her to outperform. And that GDR coaches applied such “technique”. If it was true will we consider such approach legal? I really hope that cases of Lotte, Femke and Jazmin have nothing to do with artificial attempts to fight aging and are result of the progress with training programs during last years. If it is so then we are lucky to enjoy our favorite swimmers for long, long time.

aswimfan

It is maybe due to recovery between training necessary for distance swimming?
That younger female swimmers have stronger/faster recovery capacity?

Gould, Wickham, Meagher, Caulkins, Egerzsegi, Evans, Hoff, and many other swimmers who were great in distance events (or 200 strokes and 400 IM) reached their peak before turning 20 and then unable to get close to their peak times once they were over 20 or even before.

aswimfan

And yes, lately we are seeing 20+ swimmers still swimming PBs in longer distance events, such as Friis (in Barcelona), Belmonte, Hosszu.

And I concur with you that it is only due to more training opportunities for older female swimmers and better nutrition and better training technique.

Danjohnrob

One thing that differentiates swimming from track is the hydrodynamics involved. In some cases a female swimmer’s body as a teen is more like a young boy’s body in terms of muscle to body at ratio, and as they mature into women this changes. In the case of Mary T Meagher, this was particularly evident; photos of her when she swam her famous times at Brown Deer, vs in LA for the 1984 Olympics almost look like a different person! Janet Evens has stated herself that she understands now that if she had kept her bodyweight down she might have been able to swim faster later in her career. She was never overweight, don’t get me wrong, but her body became more womanly, affecting hydrodynamics and strength/weight ratio. This was particularly important for her due to the unorthodox stroke she used. IMHO, the compression and faster than skin effects of female suits now decrease the effects of this issue, especially because they cover so much more of the body than female suits of the past did.

Yozhik

Something is going on now with all those “old ladies” 🙂 Now Katinka Hosszu significantly improves her time at 200m. So if somebody forgot that she will be in the final at this distance in Kazan then there is a reminder.

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