W100 ‘Fly: Sarah Sjostrom & 55.8 Title Regained Soak The All-Time Rankings

Sarah Sjostrom, of Sweden,  by Patrick B. Kraemer
Sarah Sjostrom, of Sweden, by Patrick B. Kraemer

World champion and record holder Sarah Sjostrom heads to the Rio 2016 Olympic Games as the title favourite in the 100m butterfly after a 55.89 championship-record victory this evening. She now owns 16 of the best 25 efforts in history.

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aswimfan

This 55.89 fly is pretty much in line with her 52.82 free few days ago.
The more interesting question is how much she is going to improve when fully tapered in Rio.

commonwombat

Along with a number of others who have shown themselves to be fast “year round”. The likes of Hosszu, Seebohm, Larkin, C1 …. arguably Ledecky.

commonwombat

Much as I remain a sceptic of mixed relays (until they institute a set order); there were a few few interesting splits to take note of.

For ITA, Dotto dropped in a 47.94 and Pellegrini a 52.91 anchor split. However, for W4X100 observers, NED provided the most interest with a 52.27 anchor from Kromowidjojo and 53.70 from De Meer (her maiden sub54 split).

aswimfan

AFAIK, that 52.91 should be Pellegrini’s fastest ever split.
NED is trying to solidify their second position favorites in 4×100 free, although I must say I’m a little disappointed that Steenbergen has not made the improvement I expected from her this year, the sort of improvement that Oleksiak has done I’m the past few months or Cate did in 2008 leading to Beijing.

commonwombat

Yes, De Meer’s progress is a plus but Steenbergen has been disappointing this year but that is often the case with swimmers of those ages. They make the dramatic step forward into international class but their progress is frequently far from linear.

Oleksiak has made the massive steps forward this year whereas it was Ruck last year for CAN (who is having a having a similar year to Steenbergen).

In many football codes, they call it “second season syndrome”

kevin roose

I am not a American but i am really looking forward to there up comming trials, being the number one swimming nation they can have such a impact across many events on the perceived aspirations of glod medal hopes of other nations .
I am also looking with much curiosity on the “older swimmers ” at the twilight of there careers to see if they can post times worthy of a gold medal contender.
Grevers at 31
Phelps at 30
Lochte at 31 …
Cseh at 30 just prooved that age does not matter posting a wonderfull time of 1:52:91 in the 200 fly Euro ….and i have a sneaky feeling the 3 Americans mentioned will be on the plane to Rio and with impressive times …
Alas the same could not be said for 2 legends of Australian swimming in Thorpe and just recently Hacket whereby age did get the better of them ……

aswimfan

kevin roose,

Again, by comparing the 5-6 years of retirement and shortened preparation of Thorpe and Hackett -as well as the nature of their events- to the continuous swimming career of Grever, Phelps, Lochte and Cseh, this proves conclusively that you are not familiar at all with Australian swimmers.

aswimfan

Cam mcEvoy just swam 3:52.87 at Japan Open prelims, faster than what James Guy, the reigning 400 free world silver medalist 🙂

Guy may have excuse he was wearing banana hammock, but McEvoy just flew in from 10-11 hours flight and had two sessions of 200 free where he also swam faster 200 free than James Guy did in the final. And, less than an hour later, mcEvoy went 47.8 in 100 free.

aswimfan

kevin roose,
by the way, Hackett is 36 yo, significantly older than the 30-31 yo swimmers you are trying to compare with.
The more apt comparison would be if:
Phelps, Lochte, Grevers, Cseh all retired after 2012 London, have a family with a couple of kids, living sedentary live for a few years (and with domestic drama to boot), and then return to training in early 2019 to try to make it to 2020 Olympics in 400 IM (for Phelps, Lochte and Cseh) and 200 back (for Grevers).

kevin roose

Aswimfan you need to get a life swimming is too serious for you …it s a sport mate …my piece was about getting into your twilight years not comparing if you are 30 or 36….
i was not comparing Hacket with the others i was generalising about age in swimming

kevin roose

What didnt you know that Hacket has had personal drama of his own , bust up with his wife aired in the public media arrested at his home after obliterating his furntiture and being accused of beating his wife …….

kevin roose

you have serious anger management issues mate if every day all you want to do is try and be little me …..
what do you want to be the only person having a voice on this website

aswimfan

kevin roose,
You were definitely making comparisons between the two groups of swimmers.

And by presenting hackett and thorpe as a case where age did get the better of them shows that you are not familiar with the career and life of both swimmers. They retired for 6 years, living sedentary life. What do you expect them to be on their second year of training after unretirement? became world champions?

By the way, Hackett won bronze medal in last year’s worlds at the age of 35. How about that.

If you want to present Cseh, Lochte, Phelps and Grevers (all of whom have never really retired) as examples where they successfully overcame the downside of getting old, and want to present other swimmers who unsuccessful in overcoming age barrier, then it would be better/equal to cite swimmers of same age who have never really retired and still continue to swim until this year:
Kirsty Coventry, Nathalie Coughlin, Arkady Vyatchanin, Takeshi Matsuda, Kosuke Kitajima, etc.

The only one who’s ever been successful in retiring and then unretiring to win olympics medals at older age is Dara Torres. And even she was never lived sedentary live, and we know there’s been a murmur about her successful comeback.
Even the former GOAT swimmer Mark Spitz was a flop when trying to qualify for Olympics after having retired for 2 olympics cycle.

aswimfan

kevin roose,
I want to present facts, and I dislike when someone is trying to twist facts to advance their opinions, and I reserve my right to argue otherwise.
I have strong opinion but I am a fair person and those who have known me online for years through swimming sites from the way back of cnn sports (pre-2000), swimmingworld, speedendurance, etc (commonwombat, beachmouse, dantm, robbos, john lohn, etc) know this for sure.

aswimfan

kevin roose,

Yes, I know all about Hackett, that’s why I wrote in the above his “domestic drama”. So what’s your point?

kevin roose

No in Thorpes case coming in the top 6 for the 200 free therfore being selected for the relay team .
Exactly the same for Hacket top 6 this year at trials to get into the relay team …..i didnt say world champions i think you very good or very bad to be honest at putting words in other peoples mouths ….

aswimfan

kevin roose,

This is your own words:
“older swimmers ” at the twilight of there careers to see if they can post times worthy of a gold medal contender. (Phelps, Lochte, Cseh, Grevers)

and then:
Alas the same could not be said for 2 legends of Australian swimming in Thorpe and just recently Hacket whereby age did get the better of them.

I am definitely not putting words in anyone’s mouths. You were making comparisons between those two groups of swimmers. Gold medal contenders mean world champion or olympics champion.

By the way, Hackett was successful in getting selected for the relays last year at the age of 35, and after only less than a year of getting back to training following more than 6 years of full retirement. So how did age get the better of Hackett?

aswimfan

By the way,
The example would have made much more sense if you had said:
Age got the better of Kitajima (who is a legend, of similar age of Phelps/Lochte/Cseh/Grevers, never retired, and didn’t make it in this year’s trials)

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