U.S. Olympic Trials: Popping a 47.72, Nathan Adrian Sets Up Defense Of 100 Free Title

Olympic 100m champion Nathan Adrian (USA)   by Patrick B. Kraemer
Olympic 100m champion Nathan Adrian (USA) by Patrick B. Kraemer

Behind an outing of 47.72, Nathan Adrian earned the right to defend his Olympic crown in the 100 freestyle.

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aswimfan

By the way, the whole Russian men quadruple scull rowing team is now banned from Rio for testing positive to TMZ

https://www.rt.com/sport/349070-fisa-doping-russian-quadruple-sculls/

When Sun Yang tested positive for TMZ, he was given a retro 3 months ban, which basically ZERO affected Sun Yang.

commonwombat

Hhmm, around what I expected from Adrian. He’s send a sufficiently strong message that he’s likely to be very much thereabouts when it’s all on the line in Rio.

Dressel ?? In itself a very respectable time but perhaps a disappointment to some US fans who have conflated his NCAA exploits into something stupendously fast in LCM terms. If anything, I suspect he is likely to make more of a mark over 50 in Rio.

Where does this leave things in 4×100 terms ? TBH, this relay remains almost as muddy a picture as the M4X200 !

Some are continuing to build up the USA v AUS but I really don’t know what those folk must be smoking …… this relay is about far more than just the “Old Firm”. If anything; FRA deserve favouritism. BRA at home may well be a major factor. RUS is slipping under the radar, ditto ITA.

Yes, both AUS & USA have proven “guns” in McEvoy/Adrian. Both possess highly touted youngsters who may/may not make a big statement in Rio (Chalmers/Dressel). However both also carry (or are likely to) swimmers who’s international record in this relay can most kindly described as flaky (Magnussen/Roberts -AUS, Ervin, pot Feigen – USA). Are the USA’s old warhorses in Lochte/Phelps still capable of boosting this relay ?

Whilst either USA or AUS COULD get up and win this relay in Rio; it is also a very real possibility that either or both may end up off the podium. Whilst clearly a potential medal for either team; taking that extra step and marking it down as a likely/probable one is somewhat more tenuous.

Robbos

CW, I agree with you in regards to France, I think they are favourites. Not Russia, they are suspect & nor Brazil.
I think you may want to re-check Magnussen’s relay swims outside of 2012 London.

craig swanson

James Magnussen is the Aussie weak link in the 100m relay. He has not been the same swimmer since the disastrous London Olympics when he went in as 100m favorite. Within site of Rio he is not even ranked in the world top 20.

craig swanson

Just wondering SwimUSA why Australia is no longer part of the annual Duel In the Pool?

aswimfan

AUS vs USA will be another beatdown, just like before in 2005 and 2007 Duel in the Pool. Not exciting.
But USA vs. AUS+Japan may be a lot more interesting, because AUS and Japan complement each other’s weaknesses.

aswimfan

Magnussen sam 48.87 in the prelims of Brisbane grandprix
http://liveresults.swimming.org.au/SAL/2016GP1/

The most exciting development is Cate Campbell’s RT 0.68! I had to re-read to make sure I didn’t misread it.
If she does this in Rio, she’ll be unbeatable in 50 free. There is just no one else who is close to her in 20-50m speed.

Jah Wobble

Magnussen announced himself to the world leading out the Aus 4x100m Shanghai World Championship FR relay with a 47.49 split – from a gun start. He then won the individual 100FR.

In London, he famously blew up, ‘only’ splitting 48 flat in the relay. He then won silver in the individual, losing out to Adrian by 0.01, recording 47.53.

Magnussen is older and wiser now. He’s had major surgery on his shoulder and his recuperation wasn’t fast enough to record a customary sub 48.

Only a fool would discount him. At his absolute worst, he’ll split 48.1 in the relay and a 47 flat or better wouldn’t surprise.

commonwombat

Rob, I do try and do my homework before putting my furry hide on the line ! Might I also draw your attention to his performance at 2013 Worlds. Individual World Champion over this distance but doesnt break 48 in this relay. His record in the medley relay has generally been fine but London was no one-off with regards to “non delivery” in the 4×100.

Craig, you;re on quick sand with regards to your assertion re Magnussen. Whilst he HAS proven flaky in this relay at World/Olympic level; up until his operation he was still capable of dropping in sub48s for the 100.

He couldn’t have been too mentally scarred in 2013 in the individual 100; he was the World Champion in the event that year ! I suspect he’s unlikely to ever reach those levels post operation but your comment really is a gross overstatement

aswimfan

I think Magnussen doesn’t handle pressure too well. He put so much undue pressure on himself in 2012 by talking himself up. So unnecessary.
I think he will have much less pressure in Rio and it will be his own “redemption” to swim well there.

Jah Wobble

Magnussen’s just ripped out a 48.4 unrested:

http://liveresults.swimming.org.au/SAL/2016GP1/

Verram

He gave McEvoy a run for his money just then.. 0.06 difference

commonwombat

48.49, Jah Wobble, the first time he’s broken 48.50 post op …… that;s still one helluva a way from the sub48 you so loftily proclaim as “customary” !

47flat = 47.00. He only ever managed that with a flying start once when he was at his peak …… and you honestly expect him to be able to replicate it when he’s swimming the best part of a second slower flat start ?

And by the way, his “blow up” in the London 4×100 was no one-off, he replicated it the next year at 2013 Worlds where he then went on to win the individual 100.

He MAY be older and wiser (we can only take his word for it at this stage) but the prime issue is even if he has it mentally together; he is nowhere near the level he was pre-op and its frankly unrealistic to expect a time/split of that range.

If they got a flying start split of 47.7 from him in Rio; I’d suggest they’d grab it given what he’s shown to date.

Jah Wobble

“loftily claim”? He has more sub 48sec swims than anyone in history.

He’s a worthy attribute to the Aus team. Without him, their gold medal chance is much diminished.

Robbos

Magnussen 48.49 unrested. I can see a 48 flat or at least low 48, which would be up there with the best 4th swimmers in any country.

Eugene Chc

commonwombat, florida swimmers didn look very good.
Dressel has a very slow 200 free, maybe he has some asthma problem.

Anon

Magnussen 48.5 is encouraging and suggests he’ll be 48-low come Rio but I suspect he’ll be max 47.5 off a fly start. However the real news is James robert’s 49.5 – he’s failed to deliver in 2011-2013 in comparison to what he swam in the equivalent trials and I’m betting on him to let the team down again in rio. I’d be surprised if he went 48-low off a fly start.

Nothing amazing from the Brisbane gp apart from C1 24.04 in the 50m (it may be out of reach but I’m hoping she can go 23.7 and take the super suit record).
I guess it’s hard to judge given they’re likely to be in deep training.
I’m disappointed in Larkin – still swimming 53s even though he was consistently swimming 52 lows October-December 2015. I think the best he can hope for is 52.4 and will be fighting for the bronze behind Plummer and Murphy

Anon

*i wouldn’t be surprised if he split 48 off a fly start

aswimfan

Cate Campbell split a dirty 23.59 in 4×50 and swam 24.0 with RT 0.68 in both prelims and final. Finger crossed this is finally we get to see Cate improved her start.

gheko

Lets not be too critical of James Magnussen. twice world 100m free champ, missed Olympic gold by centimetres, Has been injured for months and is just starting to show unrested form at 48.4, He can go relay 47 in Rio, so can Chalmers, and we all know McEvoy can go 46

Rafael

gheko, the 4×100 will be awesome in rio (But maybe the 4×100 medley might be even more interesting)

On paper Australia is favorite, top 4 times are to 3:11 high now, but Roberts and Mag need to deliver better than their usually Olympic Relay results.

We would have France on 3:12 mid, US 3:12 High, Russia 3:13 low, Brazil 3:13 Mid.

Italy is tough to predict, Orsi situation is not known yet, and apart from Dotto the team is pretty weak.
The other teams all have top 4 times over 3:14 and there is a chance now that Zetao won´t come to Rio..

ThereaLuigi

Orsi is officially on the team heading to Rio.

He can now be deployed in the 4×100 relay.

The thing is, although he claims he is back to normal, nobody knows what times he can swim. At the Sette Colli he did not swim the 100, and I suspect the reason is, if he swam it and went 49, the Italian Swimming Federation would lose its face in putting him on the team. I guess they hope that by some miracle between here and August he goes back to his 2015 self. Which I think it’s unlikely.

Rafael

ThereaLuigi, sorry If it sounded wrong, I knew Orsi is on the team, when I mean his situation it was to mean “How good/fast is he now”

aswimfan

Unless Roberts comes back anywhere near his best, it’s better to put Abood in the relay. Abood is consistently a great relay swimmer.
USA 4X100 is always dangerous no matter how their individual swims look like due to consistent great relay performances (thanks to intensive NCAA racing opportunities especially relays).

kevin roose

Aussie Grand Prix: Minna Atherton what a talent she is 16 years of age improoved on her time from nationals 200 back from 10th to 9 th fastest this year . 2:08:23 to 2:08:08

kevin roose

James Magnussen has tonight clocked his fastest post shoulder surgery 100m freestyle time in a major confidence booster for the former two-time world champion.

ThereaLuigi

Dear Rafael, you don’t have to apologize. Besides, you knew Orsi was on the team before I did; I saw the Federation’s newsletter listing the team members only after your post!

Craig Lord

Kevin (ta for the full press release but we don’t tend to do that in comments 🙂 … thanks…
http://www.swimvortex.com/james-magnussen-gathers-momentum-in-time-for-4×100-aussie-rio-relay-tilt/

Robbos

Roberts had no time prior to the trials that made him a contender & he puts out a 48.3.
Some swimmers swim well unrested, some don’t.

Verram

Any videos available of the men’s 100 freestyle final that Nathan Adrian won yesterday? I should qualify that statement by saying “available for non US viewers”

Robbos

CW, I think we are in same boat. Magnussen’s relay swim was the leadoff, he didn’t break 48, but he got a 48 flat, his 100 win was 47.71, so while slower was not a total blow out like Roberts.
For a lawyer I like the way you present your facts, but as a jury, I like to see the whole story!!!

commonwombat

Rob, a fair point you make but the counterargument is that he was the prime “strike weapon” for those AUS relays. He was therefore placed “off the gun” to put AUS into the lead.

Whilst neither his of his legs in both London and Barcelona were disastrous, per se, neither delivered the desired outcome nor were they indicative of his expected stature as “the man” at this distance. Should he have been placed as anchor … certainly a case could be made as he has performed far better in that role.

As to his performance last night, it’s certainly pleasing but neither should it be seen as a major breakthrough. Drop another couple of tenths by Rio …. I’m down with that but half a second ?? I think that is exceedingly optimistic.

A 47.6-7 flying start split (indicative of a 48.3ish) in Rio could well be in play; that will be solid enough that it shouldn’t lose them ground (unless he’s up against someone on a “stormer”) but neither is it likely to be a gamechanger.

Abood for Roberts ? That is one that I’m tempted to take. Roberts certainly has the higher top-side but when has he ever delivered that when it counts ? Abood is not stellar but at least you can be confident he’ll deliver “what he has”.

Anon

i’m inclined to think roberts will be slower than abood. i hope they just race both of them in rio heats (resting mcevoy) and take the fastest 4 for the final. from memory, james robert’s heats swimmings were awful (high 48 off fly start) so his poor final times should have been expected

Robbos

So the wildcard is Roberts!!! He swims a 48.3 after 2 major surgeries & people still talking about his swims in 2011/12/13.
If Magnussen only goes 47.6-7 as CW predicts, this would be matching any 4th swimmer around the world. Chalmers is right up there with any no 2 in the world & Cam is .7 at least ahead of the best swimmer on the planet, so it’s Roberts the wildcard. I agree as race off in the prelims in RIO, I think Roberts will come thru.

kevin roose

Thanks Craig understand

gheko

Judging James Roberts form from a nothing winter meet in Brisbane against the American trials is ridiculous!

aswimfan

Verram,

here’s the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnvjCUzXq_Q

aswimfan

It is weird that Ryan Held almost certainly looked like that he had it, but the clock showed he didn’t.
Again, sometimes look can be deceiving (thinking of french trials 200m freestyle final)

Robbos

Exactly Gheko!!! Plus they are all thinking what he did in 2011 (raw) 2012 (arrogance) 2013 (injury).

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