U.S. Olympic Trials: Abbey Weitzeil, Simone Manuel Lead The Way In 100 Freestyle

Abbey Weitzeil by Patrick B. Kraemer
Abbey Weitzeil by Patrick B. Kraemer

Abbey Weitzeil and Simone Manuel clocked respective times of 53.28 and 53.52 to earn Olympic berths in the 100 freestyle.

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kevin roose

Cracking 53 seconds for the womens in the 100 free individual event is a mountain to climb as it was for Australia winning the Americas Cup . Its gonna happen one day …….

commonwombat

Things go in cycles, Kevin in ALL countries. Sometimes a great generation in a particular discipline (esp if they have extended careers) can “scare off” domestic competition to the extent that the cupboard is empty once they leave the scene.

– Look at AUS middle distance/distance post ThorpeHackett for at least one cycle.
– AUS men’s breastroke post Sprenger/Rickard ?
– Thankfully there looks to be a succession following through in AUS W backstroke given Hocking retires post Rio & Seebohm doubtful to go another full cycle.

One can even ask “are the next generation of AUS female sprinters coming through and looking like breaking through ?”. This is C1’s 3rd Olympics and I’m not sure she’ll go another full cycle (hang em up post CG 2018 ?). C2 MAY, but much will depend on how her body hold up.

commonwombat

Thoughts on the Americans ?

Essentially, this was another event that played out according to the expected script. A pleasing PB for Wietzell but to put it in intl context; she’s realistically looking at an outside lane in the final.

US W4X100 ? Weitzell’s 53.28 does at least give reasonable hope of one sub53 split but probably a 52mid at best; not the “hammer” that AUS possess (x2) as do NED & SWE. The hard fact that the rest of the field were north of 53.50 suggests that further sub53s are far from certain and marginal ones at that.

Robbos

CW, I think you may find that Australia has 3 sub 52s, Campbell sisters & McKeon & all from a flying start!!!!

Robbos

This swim makes the 4X100 med very interesting, with China, US & Australia right in this. Cate Campbell currently has 1 second on Weitzel.

commonwombat

Rob, like your thinking re McKeon Lol.

However, whilst her 52.80 at Trials does bring it potentially into play; as yet we don’t actually have that performance split time that says she’s done it !

Verram

Mckeon split 52.91 at Comm Games when they broke that world record.. So she has done it as a split .. And more recently she did sub 53 in semi and final so that’s showing consistency.. A couple of weeks ago mckeon swam a 53.30 in California which would have qualified second to weitzel by only 0.02 in deficit .. But because the Aussies have been so good, that 53.30 swim from mckeon is largely ignored by many

Verram

On a side note.. Cate Campbell just swam a 52.97 heat swim this morning in the pre Rio Grand Prix event.. Bronte Campbell noticeably missing..

commonwombat

Yes, noticed C1s time …. which is a very sobering message to the Americans who qualified.

Re C2, her 50free last night was good, indeed excellent by most standards but certainly near her best. Hard to know if everything is ticking along quite as it should with her or whether the hip niggles that inhibited her during the AUS domestic season continue to be a bother.

commonwombat

Verram, when I was referring to a “hammer”, I was referring to the demonstrated capacity to drop in a sub52 split or at worst a 52 “dead”.

C1 & C2 have “repeat form” in that range, both Kromowidjojo & Heemskerk have been there. Sjostrom, to my knowledge, hasnt but one has to suspect she can. McKeon ‘s sub53 capacity is know; her 52.80PB does suggest some potential for a 52low but as yet, we haven’t the confirmatory evidence.

Verram

Why do I get the feeling that the Americans will try to Spring a surprise on that 4×100 free relay come Rio.. Not sure what that surprise is, but I get the feeling they are cooking up something to try to upset the Aussie and Dutch firepower …

commonwombat

Not sure they can close a 3-4 sec gap by themselves but those eternal intruders called Illness & Injury can take their toll on anyone.

Just say, notionally, that there is something that is seriously inhibiting C2. AUS can probably cover her being in only 52high split condition or even her being ruled out. The margin will be cut but they are still ahead if C1, McKeon, Elmslie perform to something near expectations. However, if you also take C1 or McKeon out, then its game on.

The US relay that HAS demonstrably strengthened is their W4XMED with King clearly putting them in a position of clear advantage on that leg & Worrell certainly strengthening that former weak leg.

kevin roose

Maddie Wilson can cover did 53:93 lead off over 100 in the 200 at grand prix yesterday ……

aswimfan

John,
Analogy using Usain Bolt for Ledecky’s swim last night is a bad one. First, Bolt is men (there are obviously different physiological differences) and Bolt is a sprinter. Anyone who followed track&field would shred this analogy to pieces.

Better analogy would be with Genzebe Dibaba. First, both are women. Second, Dibaba’s times in 1500/3000/5000 m would be the closest we can find in track that are comparable to Katie Ledecky’s times in 400/800/1500 m. Dibaba holds indoor WRs in 1,500/one mile/3,000/5,000 (3:55.17/4:13.31/8:16.60/14:18.86)

So, for Ledecky to swim 8:10 and then swimming 53.99 would be like Dibaba running indoor 3,000 in 8:20 in the morning, and then come back in the evening to run 400 m in 51.00 (world indoor record is 49.59 by Jarmila Kratochvillova).

Can genzebe do it? Very very unlikely, as I can’t even find anywhere she has ever run 400m internationally 😀

This Genzebe analogy would be easily understood and accepted by track fans and yet still highlight how incredible Ledecky’s feats are.

aswimfan

An additional info on G Dibaba: she can’t even be internationally competitive in 800 m, which is akin to 200m in swimming, while Ledecky won world championships gold.

However, obviously there are vast differences on how our body responds to running and swimming: running is obviously high impact and you can’t just run and run without sufficient time required for recovery. In swimming, recovery time is nowhere nearly as long as in running.

Robbos

CW, firstly I don’t know who your 2nd Swedish swimmer is & as for Heemskerk, her Int’l record is as strong as McKeon (male).
If tomorrow we gathered the best 100 metres swimmers from around the world to race. There would be 4 big swimmers with a chance to win, 3 Aussies & 1 Swedish.
Kromowidjojo’s best was 4 years ago & now best is 50 metres.
Fine you don’t like McKeon, but she one of the best.

aswimfan

back to Weitzeil getting faster:
As we (with the exception of one) all have predicted, the key to Weitzeil improving is not by slowing down first 50 but by improving her second 50 endurance while maintaining her fast first 50.
In her previous fastest swims, every time she split 25 low, she was never able to come back in 27. This time, she split 25.38 but able to come back in 27.90

aswimfan

Robbos,
Please do not insult Heemskerk by putting her on the level of DMckeon.
1. Heemskerk always got into individual finals, it’s in the finals that she is a headcase.
2. heemskerk always smashed it out in the relays. Her relays performances have always been much better than her individual swims. Heemskerk regularly split 52low to mid in 4×100 free.

aswimfan

This 100 m PB by Weitzeil is certainly a good news for USA 4×100 medley. They suddenly do not have to give Weitzeil more than 1 seconds ahead of Campbell for a chance to win.

Verram

In order for Australia to have any hope in that medley relay, they need a massive 1:05 PB from Georgia bohl and low 56s flat start from mckeon

commonwombat

Rob, my point re “hammers” was to point out that these particular nations had at least one with this capacity which the USA currently lacks …. and looks some distance away from possessing. AUS has 2, NED has 2 & SWE 1.

I was not making any claim that SWE is a real “player” in this relay. Sjostrom has to acknowledged as a “gun”. Coleman is a 53mid flat start performer at her best but the rest are 54s.

And ASF is right, you pulled the wrong rein on Heemskerk. She’s flaky in individual events but she has been a stellar relay performer for a couple of Olympic cycles.

She’s a regular 52 splitter and dropped in a sub52 in the 4X100 at last year’s Worlds. Both she & Kromowidjojo split sub53s at this year’s Euros.

I don’t know where you got the idea that I was dissing McKeon. Her PB certainly puts her in range for a sub52 but, as yet, she hasn’t dropped in an actual split that would actually grant her entry to that club.

I know nothing about her as a person on which to base any personal dislike. As a swimmer, I DO rate her … something I regrettably cannot extend to her brother. Do I see her as one of AUS top bracket medal hopes …. I do not.

I see her as having legitimate minor medal claims in both the 200free and 100fly but she is likely to need PBs in the range of around 0.5sec in both. Whilst I hope she can, I do not see it as a fait accompli that that she will. Certainly a possible medallist in both but not quite on the probable/likely list.

commonwombat

Verram, they’d need Seebohm to really drop in an opening leg that has them at least 0.5sec ahead of US.

Bohl would most likely need to drop in a BRS split of min 1.05.4 changing over to fly with a deficit hopefully below 0.8-1sec.

Worrell’s intl relay record at Pan Ams was actually one of being slower than she was in the individual. Make of that what you will. If McKeon can match her or be within a couple of tenths then all its still all in play.

How Weitzell will perform under pressure is something we’ll need to find out. She does have a tendency to “spin her wheels” coming home in the 100. On the plus side for AUS is the fact that C1 does appear to be in career best form this year.

I think much will hinge on whether both Bohl & McKeon have had good meets and their confidence levels.

aswimfan

Verram,
As I keep saying since last year. In order to win 4×100 medley, Australia need to find a breaststroker who swims 1:05 flat start.
Bohl came close in Trials, but not there yet.
I think mcKeon’s fly leg will be ok. She only needs to do 1:06mid flying start, but if Bohl cannot swim 1:05mid flying start, it’s bye bye gold.

Eugene Chc

aswimfan, Weitzell also very good relay swimmer, at least in SCM and SCY.
Vollmer also great relay swimmer, Worrell has some very good in SCY relay swims, but not yet in LCM,

aswimfan

Eugene,
I think most US swimmers are great relay swimmers, possibly because they swim in NCAA which requires them to swim in team environment at every dual meets, conference and nationals. And there are a LOT of relays in NCAA. No question about that. That’s why you see at Olympics, their relays are very hard to beat when of equal PBs, and impossible to beat if they are have dominant swimmers like m4x200 free between 2004 to 2013.

Personal Best

Ah… did Cate Campbell just break the WR?

Personal Best

Or am I misreading?

kevin roose

She just did 52.06 oh my god

kevin roose

World record ……..gone another super suite …..

gheko

Australia’s Cate Campbell has broken the 100m freestyle world record at the Brisbane Grand Prix swimming meet.

Former world champion Campbell clocked 52.06 seconds, eclipsing German Britta Steffen’s old mark of 52.07, set at the 2009 world titles during the now-banned supersuit era.

Campbell is at her final hit-out at home before the Rio Olympics.

gheko

Today, Campbell went out in 24.89 and came home in 27.17, compared to Steffen’s 25.46/26.51. I would imagine she is not rested for this meet?

Eugene Chc

sometimes with full rest it slower than with partial rest.

commonwombat

Re “rested”, what “complicates” that issue is the fact that over the past couple of years, C1 has been one of those who has shown the capacity to be extremely quick “in season”.

To the matter itself, Well Done Cate !! She HAS been the dominant figure in this event post London and she has been the one who’s been posting the times “in that ball park”

Here’s hoping she can hold this through Rio and collect that gold medal ….. and if she gives the WR a further nudge … well ,why not !!

aswimfan

OK, now that I’m done with screaming at other article, there are a few things:

1. USA w4x100 medley is back to square one: they need to give Weitzeil a 1.5 seconds advantage. Anything less than 1.5 seconds would mean Cate to chase after Abbey and land on her like an Orca on a seal.

2. 24.89 on the feet. That says it all. I’ll say it again: no one, and I mean clearly NO ONE is close to her between 20-50 m. And if she gets her start right (like so far in this Grand Prix), she’s unbeatable in 50 free.

3. Her RT in this swim is 0.67
Whaaattt?? Yesss!
Since 2013, I kept saying that once she improves her start, Steffen’s WRs should be vulnerable.

4. Some swimming “experts” in this site and other sites kept saying that Sarah Sjotrom should drop 200 free to focus on 100 free gold. LOL.
And I kept responding, it would be silly to drop 200 free.
In 2013, Sarah was able to get that silver because Bronte had not peaked yet.
Last year Sarah was able to get that silver because Cate had surgery few months earlier which prompted her to consider not swimming in Kazan.
But some delusional people are convinced that Sarah could beat BOTH Campbell sisters if only she doesn’t swim 200 free.
LOL again.

Verram

Wow!!! Is that a statement.. She’s going for 51s come rio

aswimfan

oh by the way, Sarah did NOT swim 200 free in 2015 and 2013 worlds

gheko

I think this would be Cate’s first long course individual world record, Massive swim looks like she has now got a great back as well as front end speed, First Australian WR in the 100m free since Libby Trickett and Jodie Henry, Congratulations to her and coach Simon Cusack!

Eugene Chc

aswimfan, in Rio Manual can be best american in 100free. now she has speed but endurance afwul, also not 3 rounds in 200 free for her before 100.

kevin roose

It has been reported Bronte is home in bed with a virus hence did not compete today. Hopeing thats the case and its not a physical problem. The grand prix is in the same city as where Bronte lives.

Wayne Lynch

What an awesome swim by Cate Campbell!

gheko

Bronte has a cold, she is fine went 24.4 last night in 50m free

aswimfan

To the good folks in Australia, can someone please upload and post the video link..

Verram

Why is swimvortex so far behind reporting the world record .. Meanwhile the other website swimswam has already done it.. I’m assuming they’re on the same Timezone

Personal Best

Ah, not to speak negatively of others, however Craig Lord usually puts a little more effort in his reporting and it may be taking longer to publish.

aswimfan

Verram, other websites have many “correspondents”, while swimvortex only has two writers Craig and John I believe.
Of course the quality of writing is much better here, but the downside is that it’s not always expeditious in reporting latest swimming news.

aswimfan

Verram,
thanks for the link, but the video is not available in my area 🙁

Verram

Point taken… Just massive news that’s all

aswimfan

gheko,
yes, this is Cate’s first individual long course WR. She would have had several already of course, if not for the stupid rubbersuits.

aswimfan

One good aspect about this WR swim is that the WR monkey is off Cate’s back, so hopefully she will swim even better in Rio. The downside is of course she is now a huge favorite. So it’s up to her how she responds to these new type of pressure.

Verram

The irony of it all.. German swimmer biedermann breaks thorpe’s WR by 0.01 and now an Australian breaks German WR by 0.01.. And aren’t biedermann and steffen partners??

gheko

Its gotta be payback from Bidermann taking down Thorpes 400m free record by 0.01 in the 400m! lol

Verram

My thoughts exactly.. Something about karma hehe

Personal Best

aswimfan – really poor quality video from pool deck https://www.facebook.com/SwimmingAustralia/

gheko

I dont think being favorite will worry Cate too much, she was favorite anyway, she has been to two Games already!

Verram

There’s some nice videos on Facebook where both dawn Fraser and Jodie Henry were on hand to congratulate cate.. Also her coach and jacco were on hand to see the WR happen

aswimfan

Verram and Gheko,
That’s exactly when I had in mind when I saw she broke WR by 0.01
But ughhh… I am still mad over Biedermann’s 0.01 Rome. Was watching live on telly, and was already celebrating on 380m, thinking it wasn’t possible for him to to go 3:40.07, and yet that was the exact time he swam… GRRRRRRR

gheko

Great stuff, Jodie looks like she could still swim a mean 100m!

aswimfan

PB, thank you for the link!!
So so happy for her!!

kevin roose

Wow what motivation is this now for Bronte to have her older sister break the world record …..and the 4 x 100 womens free world record to go in Rio?

Robbos

CW & ASF,

Medley Relay (2016 times)
Seebohm 58.73
Bohl 1.06.12
McKeon 56.89
Campbell 52.06
3.53.80

Smoglia 59.02
King 1.05.20
Worrell 56.48
Weitzell 53.28
3.53.98

All are PBs, except for Seebohm’s who can oull out a swim .4 faster, so it will be very close in RIO with US & China.

Robbos

Great swim by Cate Campbell. Well done!!!

Eugene Chc

China?
they much slower.

Robbos

ASF, I was talking about Heemskerk int;l record, she comes in like McKeon (male) as one of the favourites & never walks away with the beacon or even the eggs.

CW, McKeon went 52.91 at Commonwealth games relay split. She also went 52.8 flat, plus another 52 in the trials, which shows if she can keep form she will out swim all but Cambell sisters & Sjostram in the relays.

aswimfan

gheko,
I think if Jodie is serious and back in training, she can do 53flat. She’s that hugely talented.

Yozhik

Despite American sprinters haven’t shown super fast times but we have seven of them under 54sec and all of them will be in Rio. The entire women team will be small actually this time – only three pure relay members: Weir, Neal and Runge. This adds a lot of flexibility and allows to keep big guns fresh for finals in all relays.

Yozhik

Forgot Schmitt.

aswimfan

Robbos,
I’m very much aware of Heemskerk international record. In fact, I was the first one in any swimming site who brought about that point.
BUT, were were talking about w4x100 free.

And Heemskerk’s international record in 4×100 free is FLAWLESS, FAR BETTER than David McKeon’s relay swims.

aswimfan

Yozhik,

Who do you think should swim in US 4×100 free prelims and final?

Yozhik

It can be anybody including Worrell who was eighth in final

Eugene Chc

it can be time trial before olympic for places in 4*100 free. Ledecky, Worrell.

Peter Lee

My prediction for USA’s line-up:

Prelims: Vollmer, Schmitt, Weir, Neal (Ledecky, Franklin, Worrell possible)

Finals: Weitzel, Manuel, Vollmer, Franklin/Weir

commonwombat

Rob, as ASF pointed out we were speaking about Heemskerk in the context of her relay performances NOT individual endeavours. One of the very best in the business in the former, falls well short in the other.

I think tonight spelt out a couple of clear messages. C1 fit, healthy and firing in Rio will be at similar odds to Ledecky in her longer events. Secondly, WRs don’t occur in accordance with any set pattern or time-line; they happen …… when they happen.

aswimfan

I sort of agree with Peter Lee, although I don’t think the coaches will swim Vollmer in both prelims and final.
Vollmer has 100 fly prelims and semis on the same first day.
So, if they want to swim her, they’ll put her directly in the final together with Manuel and Weitzeil.

The prelims will swim Weir, Neal, Schmitt, Ledecky and the fastest will go to swim final.

Yozhik

Unless there would be no risk and a vacant spot or she proves somehow in remaining 4 weeks that she can be sharp at 100FR will coaches put Franklin in 4×100 relay. It is a petty that a swimmer who was for five years at the very top of American sprinters hierarchy couldn’t even make a final at trials.

Eugene Chc

I hope no Schmitz in coaching staff. May be other coach fix his mistake, but time is very short.
In 2013 i wrote what this coach can not training sprint. Kara Lynn Joyce was with him half year, and said the same thing.

Also may be Kennedy, if she qualifies in 50 free.

aswimfan

Missy will not swim 4×100 free in prelims or final.
Who’s MIssy going to replace?
pending the result of 50 free, right now Neal, Weir and Schmitt are all relay only swimmers.
Schmitt has 4×200 prelims, so she could freed from 4×100 (but I’m sure she would feel resentment if the coaches do not put her in 4×100 prelims), so this means Weir and Neal must swim prelims.

Now, the question is are they going to choose between Ledecky and Franklin to swim that prelims relay?
whoever get the swim may win a relay medal.
This will BE contentious issue. Not only among the fans, but among the swimmers and their coaches.

I don’t envy David Marsh.

aswimfan

Aside from that, the coaches will have to make sure they pick the right swimmers to ensure middle lane assignment for the final.

Eugene Chc

also interesting about 4*200 relay.
Dirado is she at great form.

Yozhik

Can someone explain the situation with Allison Schmitt. Will she be officially listed as 4×100 relay member. If she will then must she swim this relay in order not to dq it despite the fact that she will swim for sure 4×200. If she listed at 4×200 only she still can be put on 4×100 relay if there would be a reason, can’t she? Thanks.

aswimfan

By finishing 4th in the 200 free Allison Schmitt is guaranteed a place as a relay-only swimmer.

This means, Schmitt must swim at least once in a relay, regardless of which.

So, she can swim in 4×200 prelims only
or in 4×200 final only
or basically any other relay including 4×100 free

There is no restriction as 4×200 relay swimmer or 4×100 relay swimmer.

aswimfan

in short, Schmitt can swim only once relay or she can swim in all relay sessions.

Yozhik

@asf: looks like a very wise approach to get optimal performance from 4×100 relay. The only open question in such situation is Vollmer. Can she be put blindly in final in your scenario. After her promising 53.59 she actually made step back but not forward. On the other hand would it be fair to give Ledecky another chance because she will be definitely faster after tapering and deprive Vollmer her chances of winning Olympic medal earned by her making sixth place at final at Trials

Yozhik

Vollmer and Ledecky were just 0.07 apart at final race. And in contrast to Vollmer Ledecky has nothing to do the day of 4×100 FR relay. Is it any regulations that protect Vollmer’s right to swim relay if she wishes based on the result of Trials or it is all up to the coach’s discretion.

aswimfan

There is no regulation whatsoever when it comes to relay except now the additional rule on relay only swimmer.
However, USA always swim the top 2 swimmers in the final, unless they are really sick or off-form. Even in 2004, they put Crocker in the 4×100 free final as Crocker finished 2nd in the trials although Crocker was sick in the beginning of the week. So this means Weitzeil and Manuel guaranteed in the final.

Vollmer has 53.59 from Santa Clara and Vollmer was always a fantastic relay swimmer. So, I think she will swim the final, unless her form suddenly drop or another swimmer displays significant improvement in the camp.

Ledecky is still unproven in 4×100, so I think the coaches will want to see her swim in prelims first.

Neal and Weir must get their swims in the prelims, so now in the prelims:
Ledecky + Neal + Weir + ????

the ???? will have to be decided between Worrell, Schmitt or any other swimmer that may show great improvement in the camp. So there is still opening for MIssy to swim prelims if she can show she is significantly faster than both Worrell and Schmitt. I doubt this is likely.

aswimfan

So the fastest in the prelims between Ledecky + Neal + Weir + ??? will get to swim final with Manuel+Weitzeil+Vollmer

Yozhik

Thank you aswimfan. Now look.
Vollmer.
Pb – 53.59
Prelim. – 53.80
Semi – 53.74
Final – 53.92
Has to swim two fly races at the day of relay.
28 yo
Probably was at least partially tapered.

Ledecky
Pb – 53.75
Prelim – 54.04
Semi – 54.04
Final – 53.99
No races on the day of relay
19 yo
Wasn’t tapered.

I don’t see obvious advantage of Vollmer over Ledecky or over Schmitt who was 54.95 – 54.07 – 54.87
Among these three swimmers Ledecky looks the most stable with the guaranteed delivery. Is what she can show good enough? I think after tapering on the first day of the meet she will be back to her Austin result or better. Vollmer’s swings keeps me cautious. After her surprising 53.59 she starts talking about 52 and goes back to 54.
I’m glad that I’m not the team coach who has to chose

Robbos

My apologies to Heemskerk on her relay splits. My point remains, McKeon has done a relay split of 52, she swam 2 flat 52s in the trials & is currently rated the no 4 100 swimmer on the planet & should have been included in the discussions on those 52 swimmers.

Yozhik

I like this “planet” stuff. It sounds tremendously impressive. You can flatter McKeon even more with the true statement that she is fourth in the entire Solar System. Why not to say simply that she is #4 this season so far and all times #8.

Peter Lee

Manuel, Weitzel are guaranteed finals placings.
Weir and Neal will definitely swim prelims.
Which leaves Vollmer, Ledecky, Schmitt, Franklin and Worrell for 2 OR 3 spots. Personally I think Worrell and Franklin have the least chance to be added to the roster and I think Schmitt will probably swim both relays as she is a PROVEN performer with experience, and Ledecky will swim either.

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