Tamás Kenderesi & László Cseh Go 1:54s For World Season No 2 & 4 In Magyar 200 ‘Fly

Tamas Kenderesi announced his arrival as a senior threat a year ago when he claimed the Hungarian crown; a repeat performance in swifter time kept the same formidable opponents at bay today [Photo: Aniko Kovacs]

Tamás Kenderesi won’t turn 20 until next year. He came of age in senior domestic waters last year when he claimed the 200m butterfly crown ahead of Bence Biczó and the 2008 Olympic silver medallist László Cseh. Today was no different in terms of the winner at nationals in Gyor but two things had moved on from a year ago: Cseh, up to second, Biczó, of Debreceni Sportc, third – and a clocked that left Kenderesi, on 1:54.79, and Cseh at No 2 and No 4 on the season world rankings respectively

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Tamás Kenderesi won’t turn 20 until next year. He came of age in senior domestic waters last year when he claimed the 200m butterfly crown ahead of Bence Biczó and the 2008 Olympic silver medallist László Cseh. Today was no different in terms of the winner at nationals in Gyor but two things had moved on from a year ago: Cseh, up to second, Biczó, of Debreceni Sportc, third – and a clocked that left Kenderesi, on 1:54.79, and Cseh at No 2 and No 4 on the season world rankings respectively

Comments

Crannman

Great time by Cseh . Don’t think it will happen but would love to see the veteran make another WC podium !

felixdangerpants

Kenderesi one of very few people splitting that race well.

HKSWIMMER

28.61 coming home – surely that’s one of the fastest closing splits in history? I can’t remember when Phelps split 28 coming home, for example. Even Le Clos in London was 29.20.

aswimfan

Whoaaa… this totally changes the landscape in m200fly.

This guy is young and he looks pretty tall too and closes in 28? dayummm

I think Le Clos should be afraid..really really afraid.

Philip Johnson

This makes the 200 fly even more interesting.

felixdangerpants

aswimfan he won’t be afraid not in the slightest, how many times do swimmers fail to replicate performances from nationals to worlds? He hasn’t proved a thing yet apart from putting together a very good race

Rain Maker

I agree with aswimfan. A 28.61 coming home on the last lap of the 200m fly is incredible. The front half speed will come for this young man, but that back half speed is something not many have. I also don’t recall anyone coming home in a 28 before. Maybe Craig can verify for us.

Give this guy another year and he may be the favorite to win the 200m fly.

Felix is also correct though in that sometimes swimmers are unable to replicate these performances later in the summer. We will see, but at any rate the 200m fly just got that much more exciting.

felixdangerpants

I find the whole front end back end speed talk a load of nonsense Rain maker. Just my opinion but he doesn’t come back in 28.6 if he’s out in 54 like many are….

Dee

Felix,

Not right now, no.. but it could be a very different story when he develops better strength/speed.

TommyL

Funny picture. The only happy face is the winner. It seems like no2 and no3 realized that it won’t be that easy to get the individual 200fly spot in Rio.
Lets see if Tamas can improve his time in Kazan. If he can dip under 1:54 in the next 12 months he will be a medal contender in Rio.

Wez

Some good swimming from these guys. Two of which i know personally.

Good swim from the new guy, that is a really well balanced swim from Tamas.

Interesting point there made by Rainmaker. As far as i can recall, there hasnt been anyone LCM to come home sub 29 seconds.

The other interesting point is that he is able to descend his 50 split for the last 150 m, and that in itself is quite a feat. Not even Phelps has been able to do that thus far.

Obviously this is because Michael’s 2nd 50 was always around 28.5, so its a difficult comparison to make, but you see my point.

Tamas looks tall, strong, and by virtue of the fact that he is Hungarian, you can be pretty sure he is not afraid of hard work.

Whether he will be a threat this close to Rio, i am not sure, but he is most definitely a guy to watch in this event.

sabswims

It certainly is an impressive last leg. It means he has excellent core strength, and I’d love to see a clip to see how his technique holds up.

Coming home like that is something you cant teach and is something that you have. The trick is to push the first 3 50s within a lactate level that will allow for you to close like that without dying. I think he’ll be a threat next year, but he needs to find 2-3 seconds.

TommyL

Speaking of hard work the hungarian way Wez.

I was once told a story that a certain group of top hungarian swimmers covered 700km in one month. That was in the 1990s. Not sure whether the story was true or not but I would not be surprised if it was not that far from truth.

Craig Lord

He certainly is, Wez. Pressing down to the 1:52s/1:53.0 mark may make a 28.5 homecomer less feasible/probable/effective. Phelps, off a 53.62 turn in 2007 went 29.22 coming home, one of the best ever; Le Clos 54.06 half-way, 29.20 at the turn, inside 1:53 at the end. Tamas K will need to get the bulk of those 2sec off the first 3 laps.

Wez

@TommyL – The Hungarian national squad has often come to South Africa to train. (most times with Graham Hill).

I have had the pleasure to train with them, and then watch them train.

There was a particular incident i remember quite clearly. A brother and sister where doing a 5km medley main set (part of a session around 8km.). The brother was doing 400 medleys, while the sister did 200’s, (the covered the same distance, as the sister completed 2×200 medleys on the same time interval as the brothers 400). The coach was not impressed with their final swims, and they were both told to do it again.

Like soldiers, they got back in the water and started again.

700 km a month seems rather tough, but 600, possible. On those training camps they trained 3 times a day, with gym, cardio, and land training that i have never even seen before. Sweat and blood, literally, no joke.

@Craig – Absolutely, but quite possible too. Looking forward to seeing him swim internationally.

TommyL

Sister Evelyn and brother David ?

haakon

Felixdangerpants – I would not necessarily be that bombastic about how comfortable Le Clos should be about the possible threat from Kenderesi come Worlds or Olympics. Kenderesi is young, obviously putting in massive work loads as are most Hungarians, clearly in the still-improving-zone and comes from a swimming culture where success is expected and seen as normal. Not likely that he will choke come big international meets. Cf other Hungarians with notable success in international waters: Verraszto, Egerszegi, Cseh, Gyurta and Hosszu, to name a few …

Wez

@TommyL – Indeed, and coach at the time was their own father Zoltan. It was amazing to watch. Harsh punishment at the time for not doing what was planned, but they did it with such respect for their coach and father.

TommyL

@ Wez,

thank you for reply. It was not that difficult to guess as there are not that many Hungarian swimming siblings :).

Concerning Chad. I really hopes someone either beats him or at least scares him in Kazan. He has not been close to his LCM 200fly PB for 3 yrs now. That is not what I expect from an Olympic champ in his early 20s. But as I already stated before, perhaps I am too demanding.

Kazan in 32 days.

aswimfan

@Haakon,

You missed the greatest Hungarian male swimmer of all time, Tamas Darnyi 🙂

@Tommy,

I’m in the same boat with you regarding Le Clos. What’s irritating is that it is clear he has the talent to go much further. But for some reason is that he has not.

TommyL

@aswimfan,

lets give him another 5 weeks and maybe he will positively surprise us or even shock us.

Wez

@aswimfan and @TommyL

I trained with chad, in the lane next to him. He is the real deal. I will always be biased to his performances, however i see what you mean.

As I am sure you both have now picked up, Chad is a racer, he does what it takes. Do not be fooled by the times he has put up lately. I have heard some outstanding results coming from the training pool, and i think that come the big moment, he will do the double on the fly.

I have witnessed him swim 1:50. on a 200fly SC at the end of a 7 km session… he has some big reserve tanks.

Haakon

@aswimfan – Egerszegi – 200 back – almost at the Mary T. level … (-:

aswimfan

Haakon, yes, Egerszegi is Hungary’s greater swimmer ever,
and Tamas Darnyi is “the greatest Hungarian male swimmer of all time” as I was saying

sid

For a guy who is aiming at the fly records , I think we can expect personal bests from le close in both the fly events , including the 200 free.

TommyL

@ Wez

it is great to have someone like you on this forum. By that I mean someone who can give us some “insider” info. I am sure Chad would not mind.
Perhaps you can introduce Chad to this website and we could see some comments from himself :).

aswimfan

I hope Chad reads this forum so he can be fired up by my comments about him 😀

Bad Anon

Chad is super fired up with Phelps flirting with the 2fly

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