Sun Yang*, Ning Zetao* & Co Must Pass Test On WADA Code For China Ticket To Rio

Ning Zetao, right, and Sun Yang
Ning Zetao, right, and Sun Yang

Sun Yang* and Ning Zetao*, China’s top two title hopes in the pool at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games next month, had better have been honing their writing and anti-doping skills of late given the test that they and all others on the national team, all sports, face before being allowed to board the plane.

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aswimfan

China is all about putting up facade and saving face.

If they were really serious about anti-doping stance, they could have given out serious punishments to their dopers and be transparent about doping offenses and suspensions.
I’m sure they are not like Russia with state support doping systems, but the problem with China is that they don’t want the world to know when their athletes failed any doping tests. That, and also their Provincial-based sports system is competitive with each other and this is where doping is mostly done.

The world would not have known Yang’s positive test if a local media hadn’t leaked the news months after the fact. They are not taking Wang lizhuo to Rio even if he’s their no 1 breaststroker just because they don’t want to be embarrassed if FINA later wanted harsher punishment for him.

Ger

I’ve heard it all now: a written test.

I don’t know what to make of it all. AS asf says, these are the same people who have been way too lenient and quite prepared to sweep the dirt under the carpet in the past.

Dan smith

I don’t think China,s leaving wang lizhuo behind because they don’t want to be embarrassed by FINA via harsher punishment for lizhuo. Ning zetao tested positive for the same substance and is going to Rio. China have banned some of their best swimmers in the past. Eg they banned their best backstrker prio to the beijing olympics, ouyang kunping for life. He was the national record holder in the 50,100 and 200 backstrokes. it must have been tough for them to ban him for life. He was their best backsroker and china had never even produced a decent backstroker before then .FINA and even WADA thought the ban was nuts but as you know China listens to nobody. They banned the dude

Today, Wang lizhuo is their best breaststroker and we all know china struggles greatly in the breaststrokes. he,s actually the national record holder in the 100 breast and yet China is leaving him home.

aswimfan

Dan Smith,
As Craig has reported in the recent past article, Wang lizhuo is one of the 6 swimmers tested positive for clenbuterol.
Out of 6, only 3 names were announced including Wang lizhuo.
The three known names were given warning as punishment.
In April, FINA said they were going to review the clenbuterol cases where 3 swimmers were only given warnings to decide whether they are going to appeal to CAS for harsher penalty. FINA has not hear made any decision. But now with all the talk about doping and IOC forced to take tough action against doping, FINA will be put under the spotlight if China take Lizhuo to Rio and may likely ask for Lizhuo’s suspension.
China cannot risk getting embarrassed like that so they leave Lizhuo home.
Yes Lizhuo is their best breaststroker but they still have another breaststroker with 59.7, so not really a loss.
As for Ning and Yang, their doping suspension was a few years ago, and even if they still take something they will be more careful. They are not as stupid as Efimova.

aswimfan

As for ouyang kunpeng, it proves my point about China’s putting up facade and saving face.
As I said, I don’t believe China has state support doping regime like Russia, but they have dirty coaches in the Provincial centers.
China doesn’t want to be embarrassed by their athletes doping scandal when hosting the Olympics.
Giving kunpeng lifetime ban served multiple purposes: warning to other Chinese athletes not to dope or at least not to be sloppy when doping, and show the world that they are serious in fighting PED.
In 2009, kunpeng’s lifetime ban was converted into 2 years ban and he returned to competition in 2010.

ronaham

No matter how is China’s domestic doping situation, China will not let doping scandals appeared on the Olympic Games. Obviously, the Chinese Olympic delegation anti-doping work is fruitful: no one in the history of China’s Olympic athletes were found to banned substance and suspended (1992 volleyball athletes WuDan was detected positive but is thought to be eat the wrong medicine so has not been suspended).
China has 416 athletes for Rio, in it, with 3 athletes once was suspended for doping, unfortunately, 2 of whom is a swimmer.

Craig Lord

Ronaham – and both big names, global title holders. China also removed/failed to select at least 15 swimmers for major international teams as a result of doping positives in the season of the relevant meet or by simply not selecting from those who finished top 2 at nationals/being among fastest 2 in the country in the relevant season. Of course, controls that seek to make sure no athlete tests positive come the big one can be a good thing if backed by a genuine drive to clean up – but that model was also very much part of the GDR and state plan 14:25.

aswimfan

ronaham,
I agree with you. China works hard not to get embarrassed during the Olympics.
the whole world pay attention to the Olympics, and China is about saving face, and avoid embarrassment.

Craig Lord

Slight edit to that one asf: we should avoid whole-nation insults. The issue is too serious to have that get in the way. Thanks.

Rafael

Aswimfan. China current breaststroker is 59,94 not 59,7.

kevin roose

So if Yang wins the the 200 or the 400 or the 1500 your telling me he will be swimming clean because China dont want to be EMBARRSED at the games?????

Dan smith

China has 416 athletes with only 3 with past doping violation. That,s not too bad.

China,s doping history has been dominated by swimming. To be more specific women,s swimming. Take out swimming and China has been relatively clean. It,s no coincidence that 2 out of the 3 athletes with past doping violations out of 416 athletes are swimmers.

In track and field, earlier this year when the IAAF released their list of athletes with suspicious blood tests (results), there was no suspicious result associated with China. Russia had the most suspicious results, Kenya and Turkey also had a high number of suspicious results. It also seems there are positives from the US than China at least in track and field.

China is definitely no Russia when it comes do doping. I agree with aswimfan.

Dan smith

I meant only 3 out of 416 Chinese athletes going to Rio have a past doping violation.

Rafael

Dan, just a new that might affect China (Russia and others situation)

2nd Batch of tests results from London/Beijing:
Beijing: 386 tests / 30 confirmed doping of 4 spots (8 countries)
London: 138 tests / 15 confirmed doping of 2 sports (9 Countries)

Rafael

That results include medalista and athletes who were eligible for Rio..

Also a 3rd and 4th batch of retest will be made..

aswimfan

kevin,
Regardless how many golds that he wins or lack thereof, as long as Yang doesn’t test positive, why would be it be embarrassment for China??

kevin roose

Aswimfan simply because he has TESTED POSITIVE BEFORE …………………………………
Yang is a embarrassment to China and the sport of swimming ………

aswimfan

kevin,
your logic doesn’t make any sense.
Yang tested positive before, served his punishment, and China will be embarrassed?

If this is your standard, USA IS MUCH MORE EMBARRASSED BECAUSE JESSICA HARDY HELPED USA TO WIN 4X100 MEDLEY GOLD IN LONDON.

(I can type in caps lock too , you know)

USA is also bringing many athletes who have done worse things than Yang. Look it up.

beachmouse

I suspect that the heads of the Chinese track & field federation have long enough memories to remember the rise and fall of Ma’s Army, several who have talked in the media in recent years about the systemic PED use in that training group.

aswimfan

It’s probably easier to count who was NOT doping in that 1993 Chinese National Games.

Craig Lord

asf, important to note: athletes but not swimmers this time…

Craig Lord

Yes, beachmouse… and swimming was no different… the Golden Flowers squad of 1994 and that generation of swimmers were systematically doped… I have no doubt about it. Part of the evidence, is, of course, more than 40 positive steroid tests from Chinese swimmers in the 1990s.

aswimfan

The most damning evidence that all chinese swimmers were systematically doped in 1990s was of course that bag full of HGH enough to supply the entire women’s swimming team for the duration of the championships.

It was so brazen and sort of giving the world the middle finger even when most of their female swimmers tested positive in 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games.

aswimfan

should have written..
…for the duration of the 1998 world championships.

ronaham

In China, two teams are the notorious repute, is five of the Golden Flower swim team and athletics Ma Junren“s Army. In 2000, Ma“s Army almost swept all the champion of Chinese women’s middle and long distance,but new office Yuan Weimin, director the General Administration of sport of China ,took the Ma“s Army all out of the Sydney Olympic Games outside. At the same time, in the preparation of the Sydney Olympic Games in the athletes, conducted a surprise inspection, the results of 25 blood samples failed, was disqualified.
Maybe from then on, the Chinese sports is on the right track.

beachmouse

Chinese rack & field seems to have learned its lesson at all levels with the fallout from Ma’s Army. I’m kind of cheering for Zhang Guowei in the men’s high jump because he has fun with it all, and without the Russians and Gianmarco Tamberi and his awful facial hair out due to injury, we need someone to liven up the event.

The other chronic cheating problem the Chinese have had is age falsification in gymnastics (wouldn’t be surprised if it happened in diving too) with gymnasts below minimum senior competition age being put onto international teams, but in the social media era where every tween girl over there probably has a Weibo account too, it’s probably a lot harder to hide a girl’s true age than it used to be.

kevin roose

Aswimfan while he served his punishment did he really serve it to the fullest no …
In 2014 he was positive for trimetzidine and failed to report to the anti doping control he got a 3 month suspension it is a 2 years suspension .
He served the 3 months before it was made public…….
To add further he had a altercation with a female Brazilian swimmer in the warm up pool which later not he but Chinese management later apologised for ….
He is an embarrsment Aswimfan
Swimming Australia cut ties with him tighting up regulations on overseas swimmers training in Australia……
Whats all this got to do with the USA for gods sake

aswimfan

kevin,

he was punished with 3 months suspension.
As far as we all are aware, he served it fully.
Or you have extra information we don’t regarding Yang’s suspension?

He was *reportedly* had an altercation, but the Brazilians didn’t report it or file formal objection to the organizers or FINA, so it was a non-event. Not that I condone it.

No, Yang is nowhere near the embarrassment as USA bringing Jessica Hardy to London.

What’s Australia got to do with tightening up regulations on banned athletes training in Australia?
Sun Yang, Ning Zetao, Efimova and Park Tae Hwan are happily training in USA.
USA is not embarrassed about that.

Steve Levy

The investigation of systematic *anything* requires time, technology, luck, whistleblowing – and someone feeling the emotional weight of their conscience. Doesn’t matter where they live – the truth somehow comes out.

Patience all…

Craig Lord

🙂 quite so Steve

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