South Africa’s $10m ‘For Caribbean Soccer’; Yet Swimmers Still Hear ‘There’s No Money’

The gap: support for swimmers from Athens 2004 glory to this day pales to nothing when compared to $10m sweetener in soccer at the heart of the FIFA compost heap

Editorial: $10m in solidarity with Caribbean soccer, or more corruption at the heart of the FIFA compost heap? Whichever version of events is true, South Africa’s government has cause to hang its head in shame in an era when its swimmers have to pay their own way to major international competition or rely on overseas subsidy just to be there

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Editorial: $10m in solidarity with Caribbean soccer, or more corruption at the heart of the FIFA compost heap? Whichever version of events is true, South Africa’s government has cause to hang its head in shame in an era when its swimmers have to pay their own way to major international competition or rely on overseas subsidy just to be there

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Bad Anon

Fantastic article Craig Lord. Definitely not fantastic for the swimmers who have to pay their own tickets to international meets. swimmers like le clos and cvdb can obviously afford but the rest of those yet make a mark are left struggling. South Africa has a great talent base with great facilities but the severe lack of funding had seen the likes of Jessica Pengelly crossing the floor to Australia. Kirsty Coventry became successful after moving to the USA, and a lot of South African swimmers soared to new heights courtesy of the US collegiate system. This story highlights a very important issue and the full extent of this scandal needs to be established.

aswimfan

Bad Anon,

All good points, but Kirsty Coventry is not south African. She’s a Zimbabwean.

Clive Rushton

THieFA: the gift that just keeps giving. I’m sure we are nowhere near reaching the depths of the corruption. Every International Governing Body and every National Governing Body is undoubtedly scouring the files and archives as we speak. I wish i was a shredding machine salesman in Zurich! Hopefully some are sound and above board.

beachmouse

I wonder if the Campbell family has ever properly thanked the South African bureaucrat that turned down their application to immigrate from Zambia to there. As least from a sporting/career standpoint for the girls, second choice Australia has turned out to be a far better place to get the tools for success.

What was the story on funding South Africa’s Commonwealth Games squad last year? I can understand a lower budget program only saying they’re doing one fully funded major meet a year and except for the Aussies, Commies are often a bigger deal than Pan Pacs. But I’ve got this vague memory that there was some sort of punitive funding action taken for athletes whose primary training base is outside of South Africa.

Swimming Mom

BadAnon, just want to rectify one point you made: South Africa does not have great swimming facilities, we have a severe lack of them especially in the Western Cape (Cape Town). swimmers training in cold water in indoor pools in winter, one of the oldest Olympic size swimming pools (Newlands, where Natalie du Toit used to train) which is outdoors, no heated water either is deteriorating year after year. Kings Park not too bad, but certainly doesn’t meet the standards of indoor Olympic racing pools across the world. Rumour has it that Roland’s funding was stopped not so long.ago. Swimmers who were based outside of SA did not receive or were not going to receiving funding for flights etc to get to the Commonwealth Games.

roy

beachmouse, the Campbell sisters were born in Malawi not zambia. And bad anon kirsty Coventry is zimbabwean not south african. As for south Africa pulling out 10 million dollars for football, football is the biggest sport in south africa, then after football it,s rugby then cricket in that order. Funding in sports in the whole of Africa usually depends on the followership that sport commands. Africa is rich in terms of natural resources but is poor in terms of GDP. south Africa is not a very rich country, compared to the US, Australia and Japan so funds are limited.

beachmouse

Sorry about mixing up my southern Africa countries there.

felixdangerpants

Roy if it wasn’t for natural resources Australia would be a third world country. South Africa just happens to be a crime riddled corrupt country.

Craig Lord

roy, bad anon, as far as I can read, did not say Kirsty C was S African… and has written about her lots of times, knows v well which nation she represents.
on football’s status, you miss the point: this was not money for s african kids in football – it was a handout to another region, or so we’re told, while s. africa’s own Olympic athletes go unsupported and unfunded in the main. Of course, such a large sum was nothing to do with helping another part of the world develop its football… and few would be so naive to think so. The other point you miss is the one felixdp makes.

Chris

Fina may need some reform but I can’t see a world governing body that has been as corrupt as FIFA over the years. Lets hope the Feds keep digging.

Steve Levy

As we’ve shared offline, the historical “closeness” of FIFA and FINA executives – and I suspect many other governing bodies as well – has me leaning to the notion that paths have crossed time and again. The dam has sprung many leaks, people are talking to save themselves, and stories are being revealed.

Rather than sit back and watch, it might be time to architect a plan to run our global water sports in a manner that returns to de Coubertin’s original words, “The important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle, the essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”

Think of an exercise akin to Fantasy Football: Craig, who would you want – and in what roles – to be on the leadership team of the new FINA…and who would you want as each country’s Minister of Sport?

roy

craig i got felixdangerpants point but everyone knows the whole of Africa has a huge corruption problem not just south Africa. In south Africa, every sport outside the big 3 ( football,rugby and cricket) complain of lack of funding or low funding.wrestling,weightlifting,swimming, hockey,chess,equestrian,boxing,diving etc.all these sports complain of lack of funding compared to the big 3 sports. I agree with you that the giving 10 million dollars to the caribbean federation is off base but when it comes to funding other sports outside the big 3 sports in south Africa, it,s a delicate balance pleasing all the other sports simultaneously. especially when there are limited funds.

robbos

The unfortunate thing is where money is involved, greed is very much on the forefront.
FIFA has the greatest sporting event in the world & this is a sort after event & unfortunately as we have seen at FIFA lately corruption is right there for the world to see. The IOC under Samaranch suffered similar accusations of ‘gifts’ winning votes.

Craig, I’m sure you understand the $10M gift for ‘football facilities’ was not spent for because of Sth Africa’s empathy towards Carribeen football, it was to win votes to obtain this prize of hosting the World cup in Sth Africa.
Australia also spent $47 million (taxpayer money) in a World Cup bid to get one vote for 2022 WC & many non football fans are complaining that this money could have help elsewhere in upgrading stadiums, funding budding Olympians, grassroot sport.
However, the issue here is this money, like $10M spent by St Africa was not spent on sport but to win a huge sporting event to be hosted in their country.
There is a lot of prestige, fame & media attention on the host nations of the WC & Olympics that is beyond sport.

aswimfan

Samaranch was Lord of the Rings and the original Palpatine before Blatter.

Craig Lord

Yes, we get that, Roy, it does down to choices… bad ones.

Craig Lord

robbos, yes, the chain of thought is obvious – and stacked with problems, including using sport and sports development as a way of washing money through ‘non-profit’ systems … in some cases, on many levels, I would argue that the prestige is plastic – all the more so now as the truth emerges.

Concerned

The state of South African shambles is a mess. How are Jace Naidoo and Sean Adrianse still running the show???
This years world champs trip is partially funded!!! What modern day country partially funds their team??
Do you know that swimming South Africa is bankrupt?? They sent a directive to all the provinces and ordered them to pay a certain percent towards bailing them out. This fact can be confirmed by Freestate swimming and Northern Tigers Swimming..
Swimming in South Africa has become an absolute joke.
Facilities are sub par, management is non existent. There is zero transparency.
Jace Naidoo and Sean Adriaanse need to step down. They are destroying the sport in their country. Of course they never will, they are self serving and corrupt. Their for their own good. They care nothing for their swimmers

aswimfan

I really find it hard to believe that a swimming team with defending olympics and world champions like South Africa only partially funds trip to the world championship.

If its indeed true South African Swimming Federation is in deeper mess than I thought

roy

one more thing, Felixdangerpants it,s hard to tell if Australia would have been a third world country without natural resources bcos when it comes to natural resources, Japan is very, very, very poor. If fact, among all the developed countries, Japan and perhaps south Korea are the poorest when it comes to natural resources but they overcame their deficiencies. Australia relies on it,s resources for exports but it,s services sector makes up the lions share of it,s GDP unlike other underdeveloped or developing countries which are rich in resources. A lot of these developing and underdeveloped countries are also corrupt. I agree with you Craig south Africa and a lot of African countries make bad choices and are very corrupt.

Franco Bonavia

Roy “…a lot of African countries make bad choices and are very corrupt”. You got the point correct. Now give yourself the answer.

roy

Franco bonavia ” you got the point correct. Now give yourself the answer “!!!!! What do you mean by that.

robbos

Craig, this has been happening for along time now. Clearly most people thought an Olympics in Athens in 1996 to mark the 100 years anniversary was obvious, but instead it went to a Coke Cola back Olympics in Atlanta because money was exchanged.

Franco Bonavia

Roy: you wrote how things are (it’s a statement), and you must have good reasons for saying that. Don’t expect me to tell you what you already know.

roy

I don,t expect you to tell me what I already know. You said ” I should give myself the answer”. I don,t understand that statement.I was responding to felixdangerpants who said that Australia would have been a third world country without natural resources. A country without natural resources can develop and become rich. I gave Japan as an example.

Franco Bonavia

Roy:……Ciao 🙂

roy

and speaking about corruption, I just read that germany sent rocket propelled grenades to saudi arabia as a bribe for their vote on the 2006 FIFA world cup. Germany won the bid for to host the 2006 football world cup.

roy

for information on the 2006 german world cup bid, go to Google then type “germany 2006 world cup”

Swimming Mom

SSA is apparently bankrupt. The definitely need a forensic audit but then so would SASCOC as far as I’m concerned. Jace Naaidoo is also part of SASCOC, so do the maths. Start reading Penny Heyns, Natalie du Toit and Ryk Neethlings books, the ROT started long before Shaun Adriaanse and Jace Naaidoo were at the helm. Why do you think SSA have lost their big sponsorship’s like Telkom. Samsung also sponsored meets – 2/3 legs for two years – ONLY one leg was swum, what happened to that money?????

peter

All the African delegates voted at the recent FIFA convention to retain corruption and bribes. Australia has a European background; so would not have ended up third world.

beachmouse

The people who ultimately uncovered the Athletics South Africa corruption seem to be pretty competent. Wish there was a way of getting them digging into the swimming books since I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a ‘surplus’ Mercedes or three being sold off to board members for a handful of rand there as well.

Billabong

I guess that Rules Sam Ramsamy out for FINA president.

peter

Oh please. Lets just say what everyone is thinking. Swimming in South Africa is a white sport. Soccer is a black sport. The white population over centuries built up a first world country. Post apartheid, a larger black population means a largely black government. So it is payback time. In the future South Africa will fall back to the standards of the rest of Africa.

Craig Lord

Thinking, Steve…

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