Missy Franklin Back With Todd Schmitz On Way To Worlds; Base Beyond To Be Decided

Missy Franklin - by Peter Bick

Missy Franklin is back training in Colorado with long-time coach Todd Schmitz ahead of the World Championships in August but has yet to make a decision as to whether she will return to coach Teri McKeever in California

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Missy Franklin is back training in Colorado with long-time coach Todd Schmitz ahead of the World Championships in August but has yet to make a decision as to whether she will return to coach Teri McKeever in California

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TommyL

Her decision gives me the impression she was not 100% happy with Teri. Why would she go back to Colorado if everything was ok in Cal?

Craig Lord

I’m sure we’ll hear more on this at some stage but my understanding is that the situation is not quite as you have it, TommyL. (sorry, can’t write more for now)

Bad Anon

Colorado is home to Missy, all her international success was achieved there and its logical for her to at least perform well at worlds and decide after wards on her road to rio

Craig Lord

And also Ban Anon, she gets to work with her home coach and the women’s coach at worlds, with both coaches working together in Missy’s best interests, just as they did at worlds in 2013

Danjohnrob

This move amounts to attending an altitude training camp with a trusted coach giving you more than the usual level of his attention and your family taking the vacation along with you! It’s a no-brainer! The bigger question surrounds what she does after Worlds, so I’ll be looking for your article about that, Mr Lord! You always seem to be the only person who gives the full scoop rather than just what’s written in the press release.

Yozhik

Miss. Franklin turned professional recently. By importance PR is the second (if not the first) to the sport achievements part of pro’s life. So whatever she says, whatever she does is calculated and weighted and is very important to her image that has direct link to the money earned. And as she mentioned she is surrounded by qualified group of advisors. So I would wait a little bit on judgment of her statement of how she is different from others.
The return of Miss. Franklin is highly anticipated by swimming community because her presence will make the competition much hotter and may raise it to the unseen level. Her personal popularity will make the events with her participation highly attended and popular as well.
But who are you now, Miss. Franklin and who are you going to be? Will we see same dancing on the deck, kissing and hugging everybody around young lady who is planning to capitalize on this image? Or it would be a strict business of taking as much prizes as possible or she will find her own way to make a legacy. Will see. But what is clear now for sure that her sport career would not be just a “park walk” any more.
She came as a Supernova to the swimming sky. So sudden and so bright. But for how long this explosion will last? Since her world record there was no progress in this discipline and there is no hint so far that it would be. She was pushed from the top of the list of American sprinters. She was seriously challenged by Katie Ledecky at mid distances and moved back in all time ranking by Femke Heemskerk and most likely will be moved even further by Sarah Sjostrom. So being very strong elite swimmer in general she may not be that good in particular disciplines to belong to the stardom. The only thing that still makes her pass in the swimming history unique is that she may gather unprecedented collection of relay medals being exceptional addition to any of women’s relay.
I would rather not consider coming World Championships as “litmus test”. With all these recent changes in her life she may not have sufficient time and environment to be completely prepared. But as she said – “I am very young” and being an ambitious person she is looking forward to be a phenomenon in competitive swimming.

Yozhik

Correction: read path instead of pass.

Bad Anon

She will be going to Kazan competing in 4individual events and up to 5relays including the mixed relays. 9medal haul on the cards! that’s certainly unprecedented. if team USA live up to expectations 5relay medals in the bag for Missy ; 100/200back and 200free are safe medals (perhaps gold ), 100free is the unknown quantity for now, but I mean 9medals will be a great achievement!

felixdangerpants

I wouldn’t say 200fs is a safe medal depending on who swims it. Ledecky wins, Pellegrini I believe will medal, Hosszu & McKeon big chances, Sjostrom won’t swim it at worlds & Olympics & there’s always the possibility of a 14 year old from China who we will never here of again pull something amazing out.

Dee

I wouldn’t write off SMOC in the 200 either, Felix.. If she swims that is anyway. Haven’t seen her best so far in 2015 but she very nearly upset McKeon in Glasgow.

With names like Coleman, Popova at home, Bonnet, and the worlds fastest, Heemskerk, it’ll be tough to even final.

barkergk

Once again I see some unspoken sexism in these comments assuming that because Missy is going to live at home and train with Todd for perhaps just a short time between now and worlds, that she is unhappy with her training at Cal under a female coach. Also, for the doubters about Missy’s chances in Kazan, don’t ever bet against a superstar rising to the occasion.

Greg

If she stayed in CA, wouldn’t she be a part of the pro group (Adrian, Natalue, Anthony)?

Does Teri even coach a pro group?

felixdangerpants

bargykerk I’m not seeing that at all….Teri has coached far more champion swimmers than 99% of men.

aswimfan

This is a great decision by Missy (and her family and coaches of course).

Now she will get to train and live in altitude. On top of that, she will be Schmitz’s number 1 swimmer. With Tetri at CAL, as good as Teri is, there are tons of swimmers to train.

Cayley Guimarães

I agree with aswimfan: she will be back to living and training in altitude – for me, one of the many aspects of her success.

Bad Anon

Good for Missy, she enjoys good media portrayal. Hosszu is desperately fending off reports of doping suspicion after an unfortunate report from a certain blogger was published on a leading swimming website. Thank goodness it wasn’t Swimvortex. it’s a tragedy when rumor with no iota of evidence is given such a platform. shocking journalism!

felixdangerpants

Bad Anon only a matter of time before someone raised the question…..constantly travelling, always swimming super fast, plenty of coaches are awfully suspicious. I am not saying she IS a cheat, I have no idea, I am just saying that this does not surprise me & without a positive test she doesn’t need to waste her energy defending herself against what someone has said.

I have just read the article you are referring to & I really don’t have a problem with it as many of the readers who commented on it clearly didn’t either. Her response was fairly stock standard as well. This will all blow over in a week, if I was her I would be ignoring it. People can say what they want….people used to defend Lance despite the fact that anyone who knows anything about elite road cycling knows that they are the biggest bunch of cheats out there.

Dee I forgot to mention Femke, yes of course a medal chance & yes will be a super final, that event has come such a long way since the slow winning times of the late 90s early 00s.

Yozhik

With the Katinka Hosszu’s entering the sub 1:56 personal best club the completion at 200m free gets very intriguing. If all of the listed below 9(nine!) members of the club are going to compete then semi-finals at this event are promising to be the most exciting entertainment of this Championships. The very low 1:56 or even 1:56 flat could be needed to get to the final. With such strong requirement there can be surprises by the list of finalist and lanes they will swim.

1 (4) 1:54.68 Heemskerk, Femke NED 03/04/2015
2 (5) 1:54.81 Franklin, Missy USA ESP 28/07/2013
3 (7) 1:55.04 Sjostrom, Sarah SWE 10/04/2014
4 (9) 1:55.16 Ledecky, Katie USA 06/08/2014
5 (14) 1:55.57 McKeon, Emma AUS 24/07/2014
6 (1) 1:55.69 Pellegrini, Federica ITA 08/04/2014
7 (19) 1:55.82 O’Connor, Siobhan-Marie GBR 24/07/2014
8 (20) 1:55.89 Hosszu, Katinka HUN 15/05/2015
9 (21) 1:55.93 Popova, Veronika RUS 13/05/2014
There two dark horses, both come from USA team who can make a mess. I believe that Franklin is very serious about winning this event or at least being at the podium. But I haven’t seen so far any predictions of her possible time. If at practice Ledecky doesn’t swim confidently back to back 1500m at 15:50 and 200m at mid 1:56 then with such strong competition the decision to swim 200m will be a gambling and she may not get even to the final or will swim inconvenient lane 8 or 1 at it. Neither she nor her coach give an impression of being such irresponsible people. So I assume that she is very strong at 200 now but this assumptions is based on her reputation only and no other factors support this point.
What also is interesting about this event that it will include almost all best of all time swimmers (ranks – 1, 4, 5, 7 and 9). But the most puzzling point is that none of them are considering this distance as a favorite one. More over some of them publicly stated that they hate to compete at 200m. So no romance is involved – just strict uncompromising business and a few mistakes could be made.

Yozhik

with the exception of Franklin the last 60 weeks time frame was used for personal bests.

Craig Lord

All of which means, Yozhik, that Rio 2016 will be a different game, as has often been the case… . I don’t see any who have to make what would be another big leap to a low 1:55 as contenders for gold here… they’re too far away… and some on your list won’t swim the 200 come the day, I would imagine…

Craig Lord

Yozhik, if you mean 200 free, that’s not correct.

Yozhik

Mr. Lord I am not even close to be called “The Swim Historian”, the title which you awarded once to Mr. A SWIM FAN 🙂 And I don’t have a unique database as you do. All my data comes from the FINA’s ranking webpage that actually frequently sucks. So any corrections are more than welcome and are highly appreciated.

pol

I have this feeling that she regretted that decision for competing in College/Cal. Hahaha!

aswimfan

Pol,

Unfortunately for you, you will not be able to blame Teri/CAL for any potentially perceived Missy’s lack of success in Kazan, as she will have been training with Todd at altitude.

🙂

easyspeed

Best move Missy can make under the circumstances

Danjohnrob

I would be interested to know if any of the experts here think a relatively short period of time at altitude (?8 weeks) could have a significant effect upon Miss Franklin’s performance in Kazan.

@Yozhik: Thanks for your comment; I hadn’t realized we could have 5/top 10 and 8/top 20 all time competing in the World Champ’s women’s 200 free this summer! By the way, is the photo you chose for your avatar a hedgehog? I saw a cute Youtube video recently of an owner floating his pet hedgehog on its back in a sinkful of water like a boat. 🙂

roy

I won’t be commenting again but I,ll still be reading your articles. I find it difficult to speak my mind here even when my comment is not doping related. I like your site though. It seems you agree with fekixdangerpants.

roy

Sorry Felixdangerpants. Spelling error

Craig Lord

Roy, thanks for your comment. You must do as you see fit; you are welcome to come, go, speak your mind as you wish, within reasonable bounds (some of those judged on how much work and distraction is involved for me as editor – I’d rather have 4 or five sensible and different points of views put wisely and once than endless comments running to 100s and even past 1000 that are hugely repetitive, cannot be sensibly monitored and carry massive legal risk, as I see is the case elsewhere)… and one profile per person, too. All best, Craig

aswimfan

Yozhik,

I disagree with you regarding “none of them are considering this distance as a favorite one”.

200 m is Pellegrini’s big love, not only just her favorite. She won 200 free silver in Athens as 16 yo, she was the one who broke Van Almsick’s lengthy stranglehold on the WR. She won 200 Beijing despite losing 400. She won 200 free Rome and Shanghai.
She went into a slump in 2012, but it was in Barcelona 200 free that she won silver almost beating Missy despite training less than usual.

In fact, I regard Pellegrini and Van Almsick as two of the three greatest ever female 200 freestylers.

roy

Pellegrini is a great 200 meters freestyler. I hope she can get down to a 1:54 again. If feemke heemskerk can go a 1:54 at the age of 27 then pellegrini can too. She,s one of the greatest in this event. Also I,ll be looking out for shen duo.

Yozhik

@aswimfan I agree that it was a little bit of exaggeration about Pellegrini. But I incline to think that back stroke is what she likes more. She already gave up on 400m and 200m looks more like an obligation to her now than fan and passion. It is just my psychological observation and is not a proven fact.

Yozhik

@Danjohnrob. After a rough start it looks like we are making friends 🙂 Yozhik is a fond name for the baby hedgehog. My parents called me so noticing that I can be unpleasant in defense of my opinion.

Yozhik

@Danjohnrob. On the second thought there is nothing shocking of seeing so many all-time bests in this WC. It is just a reflection of the fact noted by felixdangerpants that this “event has come such a long way since the slow winning times of the late 90s early 00s” and most of best times were achieved recently. It would be actually strange if it is otherwise.

Yozhik

Aswimfan, I haven’t had a pleasure to watch Van Almsick and to analyze her swim. I admire Pellegrini – the way she swims and looks. And the strangest thing is that I don’t think about her suit records as “circus”. She didn’t cheat and most likely would’ve been a record holder at that time with suit or without it (I don’t mean naked 🙂 ). Her records are appreciated and are a good target to have. But to my opinion the best 200m freestyle race I ever saw is London’s final. Allison Schmitt showed the best execution possible I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3YgUGhMTB4 (“look at the gap! What a swim!!). This race is more exciting than Ledecky’s 800m win. I wish we would see something similar in couple months.
I hope that the third not mentioned person in your list is Allison.

pol

Aswimfan, this is probably a case: “too little, too late.”

aswimfan

Yozhik, unfortunately the third swimmer in my top 3 greatest female 200 freestyler is not Allison Schmitt.

Yes, she swam that amazing 200 free in London. But she doesn’t have any other performances (in textile) that is nearly as good as that London swim. Saying Schmitt as top 3 greatest female 200 freestyler would be like saying Duncan Armstrong as top 3 greatest male 200 freestyle (Armstrong’s 1988 Seoul is very similar to Schmitt’s 2102 London).

I am not in the school of thought of “the greatest is the current fastest”, I am more in the school of thought of “relative comparison of lifetime accomplishments”.

aswimfan

Pol,

But not too little too late for Rio.
Missy (and her parents) seem to have long term view of things.

Bad Anon

Missy Franklin will do just fine in Kazan, she had a great NCAA season, she’s fit and healthy, Todd will prepare her well for worlds, she’ll win up to 3individual golds 100/200back with slight chance in the 200free, 100free is for C1 to lose and Missy will need a huge PB to medal. Overal she’ll be fine. pol need not be worried

Yozhik

Aswimfan, whenever I hear the reference to some school that my opponent belongs to, then a suspicion immediately arises that this guy doesn’t have any real arguments and the reference to someone else’s reputation is needed. You are the person who doesn’t need such tricks, so let me challenge you (not your school) a little bit to understand your approach. The following tables shows Allison’s textile results for three years before the crisis with her swimming occurred. To me it is impressive and let’s consider what happened later a trauma, because that is what it is. This misfortune doesn’t make her achievements and her place in competitive swimming lesser. Her Olympic record that actually is a World one as well, is the one to be proud of.

1:53.61 2012 Olympic Games 28/7/2012
1:54.40 USA Olympic Team Trials 25/6/2012
1:55.04 2012 ST TXLA Elite Invite 1/6/2012
1:55.59 USA Olympic Team Trials 25/6/2012
1:55.82 Minneapolis Grand Prix 11/11/2011
1:55.83 2012 Austin Grand Prix 13/1/2012
1:56.10 2010 Pan Pacific Champs 18/8/2010
1:56.15 2012 Olympic Games 28/7/2012
1:56.23 2010 Pan Pacific Champs 18/8/2010

BTW, how do your school consider short sport life of Shane Gould and her place in the swimming history? And who is this third mysterious lady in your list that stole your historian heart? Are you related? 🙂

Yozhik

Bad Anon, your staunch faith in Missy Franklin deserves a great respect. It’s even stronger than one of mine in Katie Ledecky. Let’s wish our ladies not to disappoint us.

Bad Anon

Yozhik, she’s an amazing athlete who can be relied upon to do her best at all times. You can favour her to do her season or personal best in a championships final. 2014season is giving people doubts. In my humble opinion, we’re yet to see the best from her

aswimfan

Yozhik,

yes, Schmitt’s Olympics record is textile WRT.
As for Shane Gould, no she is not in my three greatest female 200 freestyler.

For me the other member of my top three is Sippy Woodhead.
It could have been Dawn Fraser because she held WR for so long in a time of ever changing WRs, but unfortunately for her, no olympics 200 event and no Worlds at all.

Yozhik

Aswimfan, thank you for answering my questions. It’s nice to have a man around who know so much about so-o-o much. The names you mentioned sound very ancient to me and I cannot make a judgment of how easy or difficult it was to accomplish whatever they’ve done. The significant development in science about swimming and especially in science of PED in swimming made a dramatic changes to the technique of swimming and to the way how swimmers are training and preparing themselves for competition. It looks like nothing left untouched and we are close to the limits of what human body can do in the water. Therefore whenever I witness a new record I take it as a wonder and I am thankful to the people like Ledecky, Peaty, Sjostrom and etc. who are changing our understanding of what is possible. In this regard it is strange to me that the remarkable achievement of Allison Schmitt is still awaiting for recognition. Someday someone will tell a nice story about her and this perfect by all means race.
I think it is impossible to find the common scale comparing sport events that stay by 30-45 years apart. Therefore it is a matter of personal taste of how to measure “greatness”.

aswimfan

Yozhik,

You asked about my three greatest ever 200 female freestyler ever, and when I gave you my list, you replied with “no such a thing as greatest ever”.

Not sure what you wanted in the first place. I wished you were more honest from the beginning.

Also, interesting that you call “Sippy Woodhead” as being ancient and you gave the impression of not knowing her when in your previous post you asked me what I thought of Shane Gould, who ic actually “much more ancient” than Sippy Woodhead.

By the way, I think Allison Schmitt received tons of recognition, not sure why you think otherwise. I think she’s a great 200 freestyler.

I am a huge fan of swimming, of course I extremely appreciate a new world record etc., and I don’t know why you think otherwise.

By the way, to a certain extent, it is possible to compare accomplishments on relative basis.

Yozhik

@Aswimfan. 1. When I asked you about your greatest I was interested in your expert preferences. Analyzing your answer I came to conclusion that my question of greatness in sport doesn’t have a simple answer.
2. I am always honest – in the beginning , at the end and even in the middle. I am so honest that sometimes hate myself for that.
3. The “ancient” name of Shane Gould is familiar to me only because it was mentioned in articles about Katie Ledecky. For clear reason of “iron curtain” I knew very little of swimming events in the world. That’s why I am so interested in you opinion and preferences. So Mr. A SWIM FAN as an honest man, do you still stand behind your original statement that Allison Schmitt beside her Olympic race didn’t show any textile results that deserved to be mentioned and may qualify her for inclusion if not yours but at least someone else’s list of greatest ? You can think about last question as a rhetorical one.

Danjohnrob

@Yozhik: It never occurred to me that swimming fans “behind the iron curtain” might not know much about western swimming stars! I suppose Shane Gould’s career was before the DDR became so dominant, which I’m sure increased the popularity of swimming competition in eastern Europe.

Yozhik

Danjohnrob, I am not sure that this site is a right place to touch political issues and I won’t mind at all to be edited. But since you asked me and because the sport is still highly politicized by those who sees it as perfect leverage for staying in power and are investing in it substantial money I will answer you. Yes, at the time we are talking about there was no internet and information was available only via newspapers and television controlled by state. Of course in swimming circles there were people who were aware about achievements of western swimmers. But it was wise not to spread such information around and definitely not to admire publicly great western athletes. The following will give you some idea of what I am talking about. I have learned about Armstrong lending on the Moon two years later after that actually happened from the foreign student studying with me in the university. But to be fair I have to say that after getting on the other side of the curtain I found out that the West was not only superior in technology but was also superior in methods of controlling public opinion. That explains my reaction other day on your joke. Cold war mentality is a terrible thing on any side and I am very sensitive when I see it returning back. (I didn’t mean you).

aswimfan

Yozhik,

Ok here’s the statistics:

Schmitt tried to/has participated in 2007 worlds/2008 olympics/2009 worlds/2011 worlds/2012 olympics/2013 worlds/2015 worlds.

Out of those 7 major international championships, she collected 1 gold and 1 silver (2 medals out of 7 tries), a success rate of 29%.
As a comparison, Cynthia Woodhead has 100% success rate (2 medals out of 2 tries, and would have made 3 out of 3 if not for the Moscow boycott), Pellegrini has 87.5% success rate (7 medals out of 8 tries), Van almsick has 50% success rate (4 medals out of 8 tries).

# of world records:
Sippy woodhead: 3 WRs before her health fell away.
Pellegrini: 6 WRs (1 textile, 5 shiny suits – and I believe she would have gone 1:54 in textile in her peak in 2009 Rome)
Van Almsick: 2 WRs, she held WR uninterrupted for 13 years, including the legendary 1:56.78 where she destroyed the steroid-injected chinese swimmers from the lane 8. I saw that race live, albeit on TV, and that was one of the most magnificent swims I ever saw).
Schmitt: 1 textile WR.

Schmitt’s a great swimmer, but it is clear that from the stats you have nicely presented her four best textile performances -by far- were swum within 2 months in 2012.

Now compared that to Shane Gould:
Gould has a success rate of 100%, Gould broke 200 free WR Three times, Gould’s 200 free WRs were spread over a period of more than one year, as opposed to 2 months in Schmitt case, and Gould also won the Olympics in WR and in dominant fashion. It took the immensely talented Ender with full strength steroid at her peak to break Gould’s WR.

And Gould doesn’t even make it into my top three.

Schmitt’s career is not yet over of course, and in my book she can still climb up into my top 3 greatest female 200 freestyler if she can repeat her London performance and medal in 2016 Rio.

aswimfan

By the way, Sippy Woodhead’s stunning first WR still remains today as US National Age Group Record, 37 years later.

aswimfan

Here’s the video of 1972 Munich swimming if you want to appreciate how crazy good Gould (and Spitz) was:

https://youtu.be/PFVNj3nuQMc

I saw similarities (and dominance) of that Gould’s 400 free with the way Ledecky swims (and wins) hers. So relentless.

Danjohnrob

@Yozhik: Wow, thanks for the snapshot into what it was like to be an Eastern Block citizen during the Cold War!

@Aswimfan: What I saw Gould do in that video was amazing! With a better start, lanelines, a tech suit, goggles, and streamlining off the walls she would be competitive today!

Yozhik

OK, aswimfan, I lost, you win 🙂 The reason I mentioned Schmitt in this discussion about Franklin (don’t forget where it started) that everybody know about Pelligrini’s artificial world record and are forgetting about real one. And this record is a very tough target for Missy. The only person who is approaching it is Sjostrom. If she doesn’t break it this year then Allison’s record will have long and happy life ever after. I think you can include this factor to your classification model of greatness – outstanding record.

Yozhik

Danjohnrob, the announcement is in Russian and is not an original one made much later. Name Shane Gould was mentioned once when presenting swimmers. Announcer almost forgot to say that the world record got broken, but the fact that the name Babbashoff is of Russian origin was highlighted.
BTW, is danjohnrob64 related to you?

Craig Lord

Yozhik, also fair to note that in places like the GDR, they did indeed keep up with latest news and times and trends in swimming: I have piles and piles of old GDR swim magazines, dated so you can see that many intl meets from oversees were covered within 4-6 weeks of the happening back in the 1970s … and throughout the 1980s and 1990s, the magazines are stacked with profiles of breakthrough swimmers, from Jenny Turrall to Stephen Holland Down Under to coverage of USA Vs GDR meets, with quotes from coaches and much else. Those articles did not touch on issues that were out of bounds, of course. I think your idea that the west was better at controlling opinion somewhat laughable, if only because it ignores the millions of stories that politicians, governments, institutions, criminals etc etc would have wanted to suppress (and on many occasions tried to) only to find themselves exposed to the light. Some parts of the world lag very badly that kind of media coverage to this day, while the count of journalists murdered for what they write is somewhat higher in certain parts of the world than in others. I agree that the Cold War mentality is bad on any side but such things are inevitable when trust breaks down.

Craig Lord

Yozhik. I recommend Shane’s autobiography: Tumble Turns.

Yozhik

Mr. Lord. Thank for your recommendation. Whatever I wrote about Cold War time is a life experience of one young person. Can it be generalized? No way. But it can be added to the mosaic of that time. I lived in Soviet Union and it is completely different animal compare to DDR. Only a few were allowed to visit Germany and such a trip was considered a trip to Europe and the background of such traveler was checked very carefully and multiple times. By having relatives in the United State I was not allowed to travel abroad to any of country of the Eastern Block. Therefore I cannot tell you what was available publicly in DDR that time. Also I am not sure that you can find that many periodicals about world swimming events in Russian but if you find them I guarantee it that the subscription for them was very-very, strictly-strictly limited. About my remark of controlling public opinion here is again the observation of one person only. But take into account of how fresh, sensitive and observant are feelings of fresh immigrant and how surprising was a discovery of how little American people knew about life in Soviet Union. Everything was a grotesque. An educated people that I worked with were surprised that there were public libraries, because how can one get to it if there are bears wandering around on the street. And so on and so on. And I am not living in the middle of nowhere in US. I live in Chicago. So when I witness such things in the open society where little direct restriction can be applied to information sources I came to conclusion that much more sophisticated techniques are needed to achieve such effect. There are plenty of ways to influence people mind. The one that was used in Soviet Union was the primitive one. That is the only thing that I wanted to say. I am not really comfortable to continue this discussion. If you would like to answer me, please use my email. You know it.

Craig Lord

Thank you, Yozhik, personal insight is most valuable to that mosaic. Big and fascinating theme.

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