Marco Koch Rattles Own German Standard With 57.29 Ticket To Euro S/C Titles

Marco Koch by Patrick B. Kraemer

The only two German men to have cracked 58sec in textile topped the 100m breaststroke bill on the second evening at short-course nationals in Wuppertal, Marco Koch clocking the third-best effort of his career for a dominant victory in 57.29

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The only two German men to have cracked 58sec in textile topped the 100m breaststroke bill on the second evening at short-course nationals in Wuppertal, Marco Koch clocking the third-best effort of his career for a dominant victory in 57.29

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paolo rubbiani

I’ve read the results and if third-place finisher, Maxine Wolters, was really born in 1999, is obvious that her 2.06.91 is a German age record instead the 2.07.95 from Feldbinger (1996).

paolo rubbiani

Edit: Feldbinder

Craig Lord

19 years record Paolo.

paolo rubbiani

Craig, Wolters is 16 years old and has swum a better time than Feldbinder (19 years old), so..

Craig Lord

Paolo, the age records pertain to the age of the swimmer, and in many cases the 16 years record might be swifter than the 19 record (Janet Evans and many others down the years, for example)… that’s my interpretation if the result sheet is correct; which I’m not about to check right now 🙂

aswimfan

It’s still very sad that Germany has not been able to re-capture their past greatness even after brief 2 years glimpse of light during Britta Steffen-BIedermann.

paolo rubbiani

Thanks Craig. I think that this is bizarre, because it seems logical to me that youth records should pertain all the swimmers of a certain age but also younger than a certain age, and in Usa (and in many other places, Italy as well) if a 16 years (15-16 her “natural” category) swims the best ever for the upper category 17-18, she achieves both the age records. Anyway..
In general, interesting results in these national Champs.
1) Johannes Hintze has made great improvements both in 400im and 200 free, and his times are brilliant for a 16 years old
2) The new dimension of Marco Koch after his first gold at Worlds as a all-around swimmers, at least in short-course. Koch has always been a great talent, perhaps now with more determination and confidence.
3) Besides Hintze, other youngsters like Mrozinski, Kullmann, Wolters have swum good times. Germany has a good base of young swimmers potentially good/great swimmers getting older. And Hintze could be the catalyst of German Swimming in next years.

beachmouse

USAS National age group records- 200 butterfly

15-16 girls- Mary T . Meagher 2:05.96- 1981

17-18 girls- Katie McLaughlin 2:06.95- 2015

http://www.usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=1480&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en

Yozhik

Luckily this logic doesn’t extends on the world records and Meagher enjoyed this title for twenty years. Seventies is a strange period when the best times in swimming career was shown at age 16 (Gould, Meagher,..)

paolo rubbiani

The starting point.
Wolters is 16 years old and swims, in the 200 back, 2.06.91, in a swimming point of view a very interesting result , and there isn’t mention of German youth record beside her result; Felbinder is 19 years old and swims 2.07.95, in a swimming point of view a mean result, and there is mention of a German youth record beside her result, and Craig Lord reports it in his piece, so giving at Felbinder’s result an obvious relief, more than at Wolters’ one.
But this is a “blind statistic “, meaningless in a swimming point of view.
And if Craig Lord, and I totally agree, judges meaningless the WJR according Fina’s method (i.e. from a certain year instead of considering all the swimming history) also this “blind statistic” is useless.

Regarding the Us age-group records, if a swimmer of a certain age-category improves the record of his category and also the record of the upper category, in my opinion is obvious that he becomes the real record-holder of both categories.

Statistics have to serve men (swimming-fans in this case), not men to serve statistics…

paolo rubbiani

An interesting example just today.
At s.c. French Nationals, Cyrielle Duhamel (2000, hence 15 years old) has swum 4.47.89 in the morning-heat to establish a new French record for 15 years old (MPF15), and then 4.42.70 in the afternoon-final. The latter time, properly in my opinion, has been considered a new French record also for 16 years old (MPF16).
Vive la France..

paolo rubbiani

Ah, I forgot to mention the race in which Cyrielle Duhamel had that fine effort: 400 im.

P.S. I consider the youth records just “a stage in the tour”. So it’s perfectly possible that results in Feldbinder’s career are going to be better than those of Wolters. But at least, when we look at youth records, we have to look at a real stage..

Craig Lord

Paolo, I agree with the general thrust of your argument. There are too many fabricated conditions in swimming. I believe the age (year by year) records came about through discussion about how best to keep young talent in the sport through the years of plateau and the journey from girls to women and so forth. Even so, it all just creates layer upon layer and the need for asterisk and explanation, particularly to the outsider (and that process will certainly lose the sport potential audience beyond that once-every-four-years moment).

paolo rubbiani

Thanks Craig. Always interesting (I’d say fruitful) talking swimming with you in this site.

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