Mack Horton Holds Off Grant Hackett In Generation-Game Broken 900 Test Set

Generation Game: Grant Hackett, left, and Mack Horton [Swimming Australia]

Racing in a new format that removes the same of same at a time of train, train, train: 3x300s off 4:30: Mack Horton just edged out Grant Hackett in a generation game geared to the realm thing on the way to Rio 2016 when the lights are on and practice is put to peak test

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Racing in a new format that removes the same of same at a time of train, train, train: 3x300s off 4:30: Mack Horton just edged out Grant Hackett in a generation game geared to the realm thing on the way to Rio 2016 when the lights are on and practice is put to peak test

Comments

aswimfan

Is Magnussen injured?

Andrei Vorontsov

Craig,
Do you know if they swam every lap from five start (it does difference)?

Craig Lord

aswimfan – update, Magnussen shoulder strain, out as a precautionary measure

Andrei Vorontsov

I mean dive start, of course

Craig Lord

Not sure Andrei – will ask 🙂

Craig Lord

All dive starts, Andrei…

anon

he has a shoulder injury

aswimfan

Now that Maggie is injured, Australia can say goodbye to the chances in both men 4×100 medley and free.
They may even have to say goodbye to a previously surefire mixed 4×100 free gold.

Craig Lord

I think that may be jumping the gun, aswimfan. If James Magnussen makes it to Kazan, it will be because he’s fit and ready to go. Nothing else would make sense. If he travels on Mare Nostrum Tour, we’ll know it can’t be that bad.

Rafael

@aswiman, the men medley will still be alive if mcevoy swims it..

aswimfan

CL,

yeah, we’ll see if it’s a serious injury, although I disagree with your “If James Magnussen makes it to Kazan, it will be because he’s fit and ready to go”

Many swimmers have chosen to swim at major championships even though they’re injured or ill. Just a recent example: Sprenger at the Commonwealth and Pan Pacs, or Seebohm at the 2011 Shanghai.

Verram

We still have McEvoy on 4×100 medley.. Hopefully he can split a 47s but sorely lacking a breastroker and butterflier anyway

I am thinking Magnussen’s career is following the path of his predecessor Olympic silver medallist Eamon Sullivan whose career was cut short by injuries as well

for33

Let’s hope Mr. Magnusen can recover. It’d be awesome if Australia wins both the 4 x 100m and the 4 x 200 m male freestyle relays. I don’t know much about the mixed-relays, but if they win that’d be awesome too! What is going on with Thomas Fraser Holmes? He doesn’t seem to be in this meet.

Rafael

@verram is australian sprinters using same training programs? There have been a giant number of injuries on the top tier. Sullivan Roberts magnussen cate. Why so many?

commonwombat

Rafael; they’re all on (or in Sullivan’s case were on) different squads with different coaches in different locations.

Putting aside mixed relays, which at this point we cannot be sure how seriously they will be approached by major nations; ALL AUS male relays are “third line of betting” at best with regards to medal contention compared to their female counterparts who are all first or second line.

gee12

I think AUS can still manage to win the 4×100 free mix relay even without James. They still have McEvoy, C1 and C2 plus Chalmers, Abood or Tomasso.

gee12

and I think they don’t need James in mix medley relay. All they need is Cate in freestyle.

commonwombat

Gee; unless there is some sort of “order” as to where the various genders will swim on the mixed medley relay one would think they’d have to place a male FS on the anchor leg. Why ? Even a stellar female leg of 52sec or an amazing one (sub52) is going to be in a position of holding onto any advantage whereas a gun male FS leg of 48low or below will be in the position of gaining positions.

Craig Lord

aswimfan, i was indicating that it might well be taken out of his hands if medical advice goes that way: not just a mater of the swimmer’s choice.

aswimfan

commonwombat,

mixed 4×100 medley is very quirky. It all depends on the strengths and weaknesses of a particular country team.

For Australia, the differences in splits between men and women are

back : 5 seconds
breast: 7 seconds
fly: 5.5 seconds
free: 4 seconds

It is clear that AUS will place male breaststroker and either back or fly for the other one, and will definitely keep C1 for the anchor.

commonwombat

I understand your reasoning but any team with an anywhere half decent male 100FS would have them as anchor. As to how many major teams are actually going to enter teams, and the standard thereof remains to be seen. TBH, I’m sceptical of their value at this level of championship and they run the risk of farcical given the time differentials on each leg between the top females and even 2nd/3rd string males.

Pvdh

Broken 400m free still does get Ledecky. Wow.

robbos

@Commonwobat,
I rate the 4X200 for Australia much better then 4X100, while we don’t have that star in the 4×200, we have great depth & good experience there. I would rate them a very strong gold medal chance.

Bill Bell

But Craig…which one’s Thorpedo???

Bill Bell

All they gotta do is [that would be illegal Bill, ED…]

But it’s ALL academic as Adrian’s a lock for the 100 gold.

Craig Lord

Neither, Bill. Come on, your train-spotting skills are keener than that…

aswimfan

Awwww… Bill Bell’s comment got edited..
🙁

for33

Now that I think about it, Japan should have a very strong mixed 4x100m medley relay: Ryosuke Irie, Yasuhiro Koseki, Hoshi

for33

I am very sorry but pressed the submit button incorrectly. I apologize. The Japan mixed relay would probably be Ryosuke Irie, Yasuhiro Koseki, Natsumi Hoshi, and Miki Uchida. The races that I would like to see are the nonexistent 4×200 medley relays. In the male relay the team Ruosuke Irie, Yasuhiro Koseki, Daiya Seto, and Kosuke Hagino would probably be the winner.

Craig Lord

Someone has to save him when he forgets to take his medicine, aswimfan

commonwombat

Robbo; the AUS M4X200 often looks wonderful on paper but it’s recent history continues to be that of a misfiring engine. They had their backsides royally kicked at last year’s Pan Pacs not only by USA but by Japan. At 2013 Worlds, they managed to miss the final. Hackett MAY add some much needed stability but McEvoy has proven erratic in this relay and McKeon has a poor intl record. A medal is possible but wouldn’t be wagering any sum of money on that happening.

easyspeed

Hackett is just a beast.

Billabong

Hackett is a beast just! The guy is re-writing the history books of Masters swimming without anyone noticing. Now granted, most elite swimmers are so sick of the pool that they almost never compete in Masters swimming events in the 35-40 age group. Now that we have one who is going for it, we can see the level of age related physical degradation. I Grant’s case, it is surprisingly very little. Astonishing.

aswimfan

With better nutrition, better training techniques and available income as professional athletes, these days the “active” or “peak age for athletes is getting further lengthened and older.

It happened not only in swimming but in many other sports such as track and field, professional tennis, cycling, etc etc.
Which is good, but it also make it tougher for younger athletes to break through. Unless that is, you are a super special talent like Ledecky or Missy.

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