Kazan 2015 Worlds, Day 7 Heats: Ruta Meilutyte With 29.74 Statement in 50 Breast

Ruta Meilutyte (LTU) - by Patrick B. Kraemer

Good morning Kazan, good morning world. The championships enter the last weekend, with the USA hanging on to a narrow lead at the helm of the medals table with five gold, five silver and four bronzes, Australia three silvers shy of the same tally and Britain matching the two superpowers of the pool on gold count at its most successful championship in history

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Good morning Kazan, good morning world. The championships enter the last weekend, with the USA hanging on to a narrow lead at the helm of the medals table with five gold, five silver and four bronzes, Australia three silvers shy of the same tally and Britain matching the two superpowers of the pool on gold count at its most successful championship in history

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Personal Best

Me thinks Australia may not swim the mixed relay… no names on the entry list.
Any confirmation?

Shame not to… it’s still a 100 relay that gives some swimmers experience.

Personal Best

Cate Campbell 0.82 reaction time… !
How does she do it? Good swim nonetheless though.

commonwombat

PB, one suspects that a case. Whilst your line of argument would have definite cogency with regards to Chalmers; McEvoy has the experience and is probably @#%$&@ by now & the Campbells have both heats & semis on same programs. Can well understand the “scratching” if they’ve decided to do so.

Verram

Yeah looks like Australia has scratched from the mixed free relay.. That’s a shame, it would have been pretty close to gold

aswimfan

Australia NOT swimming mixed relay

WHAT THE HELL AUSSIES?

At least you can give extra experience for swimmers like Chalmers.

It’s arrogance

commonwombat

TBH, I think when it all boils down; AUS & most other swim hierarchy are only counting the medals (and relative strength) in the Olympic events.

aswimfan

Aussie swimmers need to toughen it up
Mcevoy thinks he’s shot?
Look at who’s in relay prelims … lochte, dwyer, etc

aswimfan

commonwombat,

Not true.
All major swimming nations are in this relay, except for the aussies

aswimfan

Its no wonder swimmers like mcevoy mckeon etc are such weak pussies in the relays..

Verram

Medals gone begging for Australia

commonwombat

Meiluytye certainly sent out the message. Think it’s already a case of “who wants silver or bronze”. THAT could be a major scrap !

Tonk: a game trier but sadly at international level suffers from “quality deficit”. One hopes the likes of Hansen & Bohl DO progress over the next 8-12 months.

M50BK looks very open. Whilst we saw a PB from Larkin, I don’t see the treble being viable. Final – viable.

aswimfan

I mean other swimming stars with big program do not see beneath them to swim in this relays… but no, for australia this is beneath them… sheeeshhhhh

Poor Chalmers
If i were him, I’d say F*** you, swimming australia, I’m gonna play footie!!!!

aswimfan

Note to Swimming Australia:

You send swimmers to world championships to swim fast, not to go on sightseeing!!!

commonwombat

They’re entering these relays – yes. How much “weight” they’re putting on the results …… and what relative value the swimmers put on these medals MAY be a different matter.

As for “medals going begging”, methinks these would NOT have counted for funding purposes going on my experience of dealing with the ASC.

aswimfan

It’s so disrespectful for Swimming Australia..

They’ve got plenty of swimmers who’s done with their programs if they don’t want to swim the campbells. What are they doing now?
Let them swim! And if they claim they are too tired, send them back to Aussie!!

commonwombat

ASW; this event would have been of great experience to Chalmers but McEvoy HAS probably earned a day off. Would YOU trust the great Tommaso not to screw up ?

The Campbells both have far more important swims on the same meet. What’s the current form of the 2nd stringers. Normally I’d agree with you to give them a run ….. IF they’re swimming well. Question is …. ARE THEY ? Emma has been just OK, Wright ….. has disappeared off the face of the earth

aswimfan

If they don’t give importance to non-olympic events, then why swimming 50s strokes??

That’s just all bull.

Better give international racing opportunity to star material such as Chalmers than keep feeding opportunities to swim in important relays or stupid 50s strokes to serial tourists, I’d say!!!!

aswimfan

Campbells’ 50 semis will be swum before mixed relay final, and then the can go home and sleep.

aswimfan

Also, if you want to keep Chalmers in the team, surely a world championship medal is a very good way to give him motivation?

aswimfan

I see that Dotto, Magnini, Lochte, Di Carli, Chieriginni, Verschuren, Heemskerk, Pellegrini etc who have the same program as mcEvoy or more were in the prelims.
Im sure some of them will be in the final as well.

And we think mcEvoy is too tired? No wonder he can’t swim relays. Australia just don’t swim relays enough.

Iain

You could have swum a team this morning made entirely of swimmers who have finished their champs – e.g. Chalmers, Abood, Wright, Barratt, then let the likes of McEvoy and the Campbells decide later.

That said, Chalmers may well get a medal from swimming the medal relay heat.

aswimfan

And Cate’s start is still unacceptable for a super elite sprinter. It has not improved at all in the past 2 years.
two years ago she lost 50 gold because of her start. She lost commonwealth games gold because of her start.

commonwombat

ASW; the 50s AREN’T given the selection weighting that the main events are. They are, however, “established” parts of the Championship program.

These “novelty” events are first timers and there was always going to be a question mark as to their level of acceptance.

Personally, I’m ambivalent to them and certainly wouldn’t be complaining if AUS had entered them. However, I can see the arguments for not doing so.

aswimfan

knowing D’orsogna and Hadler, there’s no guarantee Australia will win medley relay medal.

Verram

We talk about world championship medals.. All medals count towards the medal tally at the world championships as far as I’m concerned… And really it deprives the swimming audience of a great spectacle when a big swimming country pulls out from a relay event

Australia with its reputation in swimming can make a better effort than that

aswimfan

I can understand the silliness of mixed medley, but mixed free should be fine. Everybody swim the same stroke anyway

commonwombat

Verram, the people who count for SAL are the beancounters at the Australian Sports Commission; the people who decide the funding ….. and the funding model. Maybe not the way we would like it to be but the current facts of life.

commonwombat

ASW, I DO very much agree with you that AUS does not swim enough relays.

I will actually go further and state that most do NOT race nearly enough; a fair percentage have inadequate race skills.

I strongly believe that they (and their coaches/enablers) DO need to be dragged out of their cosy little cocoons during the AUS winter/northern hemisphere summer & compete at international meets. If they don’t like it, tough @#&% !

However, I’m not seeing competing in these aquatic equivalents of the egg & spoon race as being a significant part of the solution …….. maybe 0.5%

Iain

Another iffy heat swim for Mack Horton

aswimfan

LOL at Horton, he really has been hanging out too much with the serial tourists.
There were signs of it when he was making excuses after 400 prelims.

I wonder what excuses he will be making after finished 5th in his heat when he was ranked #1 in his heat.

Anon

I agree with aswimfan
Mcevoy and chalmers are done
Plenty of female 100m sprinters they could use. Then put in the Campbell’s during the final – it’s after their sf anyway
They have up 2 almost certain golds

aswimfan

commonwombat,

yes, the aussies clearly lack race experience.
Even thorpe swam at world cup events and mare nostrum series, but current swimmers are just too happy to swim in state meets. Meanwhile, Larkin toughen it up in the world cup races and scm worlds.
Swimmers like Horton missing finals even when they are ranked #1,2,3 is just not acceptable, its so amateurish like they don’t know how to pace.

commonwombat

Totally, agree regarding Horton. One would have thought the lessons of the 400 may’ve struck home.

Also, the question of why race the 800 ?

In any case, he and his coach have a lot to digest from this meet.

aswimfan

Horton missed the final.

I am upgrading his serial tourist status now.

Verram

Horton didn’t deserve to make the finals.. He clearly is not physically and mentally prepared to swim fast during the heats…

aswimfan

Lack of international racing made them thinking that swimming 1:47 3:47 15:00 is enough to get them to finals. Apart from Magnussen, aussie freestylers continue to disappoint.

commonwombat

ASW, Thorpe only did SC Worlds Cups during his abortive comeback. HE used to beg off swimming short-course.

Whilst the agreement with Japan IS a positive; they DO need to send “half teams” to Mare Nostrum & Santa Clara EVERY year.

Re SC World Cup; they need to bite the bullet and put up their hands to stage one. Furthermore; ALL fit members of the squad should be made to attend at least one round.

This is a left field suggestion. Use international meets post Trials as a “verification” process for swimmers, especially the serial tourists. Those who meet a set parameter have their nomination for Olympics/Worlds confirmed; tough bikkies for the cruisers.

A suggestion for our serial tourists. NO plane tickets to be handed over. Find their way to the Trans-Siberian railway then ply their luck finding a slow leaky boat from Vladivostok !

aswimfan

Horton was like sleeping throughout the race… and only tried to wake up during last lap, even though he had Cochrane swimming right next to him leaving him in the dust.

these Aussie weak boys need to spend some time with Hosszu to learn how to toughen it up, swimming fast in ALL of their races!

aswimfan

Commonwombat,

Thorpe swam his legendary 200 WR 1:41.10 in Berlin world cup.
He also swam in SCM worlds.

commonwombat

ASW, he swam those SC times in 1999. After he split from Douglas Frost (who admittedly did become very full of himself); Tracy Menzies proved more an enabler than a coach ….. and he was rarely if ever seen again SC.

Jones had shocking race skills …. but was perpetually begging off SC. Henry – “oi doan wanna”. Lenton DID swim SC more regularly.

There have been some notable exceptions, whom we can all name, but the “oi doan wanna” has been a very frequent refrain from the majority of AUS swimmers when its came to SC for too many years.

G T

It’s ironic that the excuse Jaaco used (Olympic events more important than non-Olympic events) comes back to bite a bit with Horton.

Chalmers will definitely get a spot in the medley heat (he should have been slotted into the individual 100free after his heat) but even B-grade teams at Kazan would probably have added a couple of medals to the Aussie tally.

Next Worlds I think we may see a couple more chosen in the relay squads to ensure mixed teams can be entered.

Eugene

Gosh… aswimfan talks like somebody owes him something. Did you pay a lot of money to support team Australia preparation? Or maybe you’re a world class coach or former elite AUS swimmer who swam better in heats and participated in more relays for your country at World Championships? No offence, but those claims on these athletes look pathetic from a guy who probably is neither a strong athlete nor an experienced coach himself. You don’t know what’s really happening there and you don’t have the right to blame anyone for swimming slow unless you are able to swim faster. What’s your PB in 1500? Go break 15 minutes and then feel free to call the 15:00 a serial tourist’s time. But I’m not sure that you would even break 20…

commonwombat

I DO think they will enter these events at future Worlds (if they’re to be a regular part of the program). There always was going to be a question mark over participation the first time round.

Very fair point re the 800 biting Horton on the backside but then again most everyone else in the field also swam it ….. and weren’t nearly as sluggish. 1500 didn’t seem to bite Ashwood too badly in 800 heats but the final will tell the ultimate tale.

Chalmers SHOULD have ben subbed into the individual 100 ahead of D’Orsogna but that was already set in place beforehand and FINA sets down a closing date for nominations prior to the event. He certainly should get the heat swim for the 4xMED.

Its not a case of adding extras just to pad out numbers; more a case of having the swimmers fit, healthy and more importantly in form and mentally switched on.

Anon

Eugene that has got to be the dumbest arguments that anyone could make. Just because someone is better than you at something, it doesn’t make them immune to any criticism. Can you not criticise a football coach if you yourself do not coach? Can you not say a Britney Spears song is shit if you are not a recording artist yourself? Can you not say a mechanic did a shit job fixing your car if you can’t fix it yourself? The answer is you can. If someone is a professional, you expect the results to be professional too

beachmouse

I was saying in 2013 that the Aussies should have brought Horton to Spain after he got an A time standard because there is a very fine line between going fast enough to advance to finals at Worlds or Olympics but still having something left in the tank once you got there, and it would be developmentally useful to season the boy in that regard at a time in his career when there weren’t huge expectations for him.

Commies and Pan Pacs in 2014 just don’t have the athlete field depth to give that same experience. Wouldn’t write off Horton just yet as a tourist when it could be a case of inexperience at the highest level biting him in the tech suit. He still has a lot to prove, but not a lost cause at this point.

Personal Best

I do feel bad for Horton.
These young swimmers showing potential, perhaps on the cusp of A times, should be given a chance to compete at a high level more often.

The domestic racing against certain teams isn’t the same as going to Europe and racing the rest of the best in the world.

Common, I do disagree regarding the mixed relay.
It’s not for the Campbells and McEvoys to gain experience, but for Chalmers, Madison Wilson (who can swim a mean 100), even Emma McKeon to hone her skills, Groves, etc.

It would have cost the team nothing really, and given younger swimmers valuable experience.

commonwombat

Absolutely, Mouse !

The “tourist” tag is one that should only be designated judiciously and where there is a clear history of non-performance internationally over a period of 3-4 years.

You are also very right with regards to Comm Games. Whilst there will be a scattering of international class performers (including Olympic & World champs) present; the depth of the fields is such that the domestic habits of “dozy heats” are not always punished as they would elsewhere. Success there is nice but rarely definitive proof you’ve got what it takes on the bigger stage.

Horton doesn’t warrant the “serial tourist” tag yet; one hopes however the lessons ARE learned.

Just as the US selection policy is under fire; the AUS policy of “one shot saloon”/Trials only format should be question as to whether it is still best practice.

aswimfan

Beachmouse,

I agree with you. It’s a good thing Australia didn’t have more strict standard in 1998 apart from the one sanctioned by FINA, otherwise the likes of Thorpe might not have even been sent to 1998 Worlds.

Eugene,
If I had broken 15 mins in 1500 I surely would not have spent time making discussions in swimming website, wouldn’t I?
Also, my username is “aswimfan”
have you never met a sports fan in your entire life before? no?
Go check other sports forums, they are much much worse.

aswimfan

Let’s recap, going into kazan, Horton was ranked #1 in 400 and #2 in 1,500.
In both events, he failed to to advance to finals.

after failing 400, in interview with australian media, he blamed inexperience and said it’s his first international major international meet (although he has participated in 2013 worlds junior, 2014 commonwealth games and 2014 pan pacific – compared that to Grant Hackett and Ian Thorpe who only participated in one pan pacs before their first worlds a few months later).

In 400, he was swimming next to David Mckeon and may not have seen the pace in the outside lanes or didn’t care to find out about the pace in previous heats. So I could sort of understand that. But the experience in 400 apparently didn’t give him much lesson. BUt 1500 is totally different thing. He was in earlier heat so he should have been more careful not to swim too slow. Also, he was swimming in between Cochrane and Joensen. He didn’t react when Cochrane was swimming away and away and he didn’t even react when Joensen was leaving him. Surely he must have seen them?

As with other here, it seems those “made up competition” events and the friendlies with the Japanese clearly didn’t hone their racing skills. They need far more frequent real racing, not some friendlies.
This is something that is admirable and can be learned from the likes of Hosszu. Well, maybe no need to go to such extremes like Hosszu, but good amount of quality racing is sorely needed.

commonwombat

PB, I’m NOT necessarily against mixed relays. In some of the other sports I follow (esp Nordic/winter); they’re great events & generally see the top stars “running”. These, however, operate on a clear structure (FFMM) whereas FINA in their “infinite wisdom” has just plonked them on the program.

Also it wasn’t a case of immediate “take-up” by all nations; it took some seasons for all the powerhouse nations to give them “full value”. This may be the case with these events.

I DO see, and accept, the arguments for AUS entering these events. Maybe it’s just my lawyer’s mind, but I can also see the very valid reasons why they haven’t … which I have aired here.

Yes, it would’ve been an opportunity to give Chalmers some more international racing but Abood is the only other male you could even consider giving a run. Madi Wilson was someone I would’ve considered, just not sure who else as they may be thinking of resting the non-tourist McKeon. Some of the other possibilities have been that poor that you’d frankly pay them NOT to swim !

commonwombat

ASW, according to his media interview he DID notice the change of pace and tried to keep up … but couldn’t. Whether it looked that way from a viewing perspective is another matter but those were his words.

aswimfan

2 NED – Netherlands VERSCHUREN Sebastiaan (M) 1988 3:26.91
REIJNS Joost (M) 1987
KROMOWIDJOJO Ranomi (W) 1990
HEEMSKERK Femke (W)

USA – United States LOCHTE Ryan (M) 1984 3:24.51
ADRIAN Nathan (M) 1988
MANUEL Simone (W) 1996
FRANKLIN Missy (W) 1995

5 RUS – Russia MOROZOV Vladimir (M) 1992 3:25.23
SUKHORUKOV Alexander (M) 1988
POPOVA Veronika (W) 1991
LOVTCOVA Natalia (W)

These countries are taking mixed free relat so seriously!
USA may need gold for a pick up.

And finally, NO Sjostrom in the Swedish relay!! finally the Swedish team is making good sense. They should have released her from all relays and let her swim 200 instead.

aswimfan

Commonwombat,

Ok if that’s what he said. That means he’s not prepared either physically or mentally or both to swim fast in the prelims. Somebody in aussie team needs to address this, because obviously Horton can swim far faster than 1,500. And he doesnt seem to have any physical ailment either, and he still went PB in the 800.

commonwombat

I DO have to question the US selections picking their top guns for this race.

All bar Lochte will have had major races earlier on the night; Franklin in particular has a stinger with the 200BACK.

All four will be needed for their respective 4xMED the following night which WILL be targeted by all countries. Whilst the USA men really only need to turn up & not screw up; the USA women are looking “under the pump” and will need both Franklin & Manuel at their best to ensure silver.

They could’ve picked 2nd string women for this one

Eugene

aswimfan, I do not even want to compare, because in my eyes most of hardcore football (I mean soccer) and some other popular sports fans are completely retarded both in real life and in the Internet. Swimming is million times less popular and, I’d say, elite. There are not so many people like us who would sacrifice their work or night sleep to watch those heats and then discuss them.

Anyway, I think it’s not good to blame those guys for weaker results or scratching from relays. They don’t owe us anything, they are just having fun there. And they are also people, and all people fail from time to time (mostly much harder than not qualifying to the final).

aswimfan

Eugene,

Got it! and thanks for a reminder!

aswimfan

Eugene,

as a hardcore swimming fan, I often got too caught up in the occasions.

aswimfan

21.19!!!!!!

Textile WR!!

That was the most dominating men 50 free win at worlds level I’ve seen in a long time.

aswimfan

Morozov is going home ,, oppsss he’s already home.. without a single individual sprint medal!

Who woulda thunk it!
I am loving this worlds.. so many surprises!

Anon

amazing swim from seebohm!!!

beachmouse

Lochte probably asked for the swim. He’s got a relatively tame schedule here compared to previous meets, and he’s always been very much ‘any time any place for a party in my lane’.

And then probably talked the rest into ‘It’s gonna be fun! Jeah! Let’s make beautiful history together!’

The Americans also typically train to race with short turnaround times between races at big meets. Manuels’s got the shortest turnaround, and a 100 free 25 minutes or so after a hard 50 free is not an insane recovery interval.

Yozhik

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Yozhik

Eugene, I think that ASW has rights to express his opinion, but I would expect from him more courtesy and not to flood this forum with his emotions. “Пустая банка громко гремит” – [NB – ‘Empty cans make a loud noise’ is what this translates as, and if that does not do it, then, Yozhik, let me know and I will remove it. You can send Eugene a private note; we should all get the drift of comments left here. – ED]

aswimfan

Yozhik,

as this is international forum, please have the courtesy to write in English or at least translate what you wrote in other language.

I would expect at least a courtesy from you who demanded others to do the same.

Yozhik

Aswimfan, this post was addressed to Eugene who being an Ukrainian should understand Cyrillic. That was a proverb that I didn’t find direct analogy in English. Translating proverbs can be very tricky because they often contain some cultural specifics that could be misunderstood by others. If it causes problems I will try not to use them in the future. If Craig finds it inappropriate I won’t mind to have my post edited.

Yozhik

BTW, my last post to you had some part in Spanish and you were ok with that. But I understand the feelings when people talk in someone’s presence using language that this person doesn’t understand.

aswimfan

Yozhik,

This is an international forum, and I am not sure Craig Lord would appreciate if posters start conversing in to each other in languages that most do not understand.

I hope you can have a courtesy to do so.

Yozhik

I’m sorry you definitely have problem to understand my English. I will rephrase what I said. I don’t mind my post containing Cyrillic gets edited.
Also I was under impression that Craig Lord is grown-up and fully capable of making decisions himself without generously provided free of charge advices.

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