Horton King, Meilutyte Queen, Australia Wins Meet

Mack Horton (AUS) and Ruta Meilutyte (LTU) crowned king and queen of the 4th FINA World Championships; AUS wins met; 47 champ records set in 6 days

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Mack Horton (AUS) and Ruta Meilutyte (LTU) crowned king and queen of the 4th FINA World Championships; AUS wins met; 47 champ records set in 6 days

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Swimming Mom

Wonderful for Mack Horton, brilliant swims and his coach is an ex South African, well done Craig Jackson.

diunis

Ruta is the best!!!!

TR

Craig, I have to take exception to your headline which stated that the Aussies won the meet. Having the most golds does not make a country the winner IMO. Apparently, FINA agrees with that as they awarded the 3 titles to the USA on a point core. The 10 gold medals achieved by Australia was due to essentially one swimmer (Horton) and rightfully so you have him as the swimmer of the meet. But the Aussies were well behind the USA in medals and points and they also were well behind the Russians in medals achieved.

Craig Lord

There are always those who take exception to the difference in counts and interpretations … but the ultimate score is on medals not on how many folk you can get in the top 16. And on the medals table, Australia wins… the first column – gold – is where it is at. Australian won the meet. FINA’s points table is a good reflection of the strength of nations but the bigger count, at all world-level and regional events, is the medals table. Take Britain – on points, among the top 5-6 nations consistently… do you think that means we consider Britain stronger than Denmark, Holland, Hungary, even France (Brits beat France on points at Olympic Games, for example… but who would say that Britain was better than France at London 2012 in the pool?)? So, the medals – starting in the first column, is where it is at. In Fukuoka 2001, Australia won the meet – Don Talbot celebrated it like that, so dis his entire team and the world media: Australia had more gold that the US (fewer medals, but more gold)… that is how meets have long been counted on the billboard, the points a subsidiary effort to reflect the breadth and depth of programs. Best, Craig

Craig Lord

p.s YOu can also extend the thought at several levels: i.e: who is the more successful athlete: 1 solo gold at the Olympic Games or 5 bronzes, including 3 relays. The fact is that the headline goes to the 1 gold, no question. Sport is about many things – and the top line is about “winning” – the gold count

Craig Lord

Of course, we at SwimVortex, do much to reflect the strength of programs – though our Swim League of Nations, which tells us that the USA and Americans needn’t be too nervous about how to count strength… even so, the database of world media shows me 99.9% of counts, graphics, overviews of Games, world champs etc, all focussed on the medals table. There is scant mention of points tables… the wider world doesn’t care, and those who do often point out the need to for another column that shows “success based on population…”. I prefer to stick to the medals table as the top count, starting, as all medals tables do, with column one (not the last column, total). Regards, Craig

Craig Lord

ppps 🙂 I also think you are being a little unfair to young Aussies beyond Mack Horton, excellent as he was. This is the AUS Vs USA count on gold count:

AUS 3 boys 1 relay; 2 girls
USA 3 boys ; 3 girls, 1 relay

Very similar …

The bulk of the difference among top 3 nations was on bronze count, USA 12, RUS 9, AUS 2… but no one counts a meet based on bronze medals…

best, Craig

Personal Best

Using a point score to determine the top team also does not consider that some countries do not send a full team or their strongest team to certain meets.

I also don’t believe the Youth World Champs have the prestige yet to host the absolute strongest youth from around the world.

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