Hannah Miley 4:32.1 & Aimee Willmott 4:33.6 Grant GBR World 1-2 On The 400IM Rankings

The moment that triggered Hannah Miley's 'taper' - 200 fly win, on the way to 400IM ticket to worlds - by Gian Mattia D'Alberto / lapresse

Out in 1:02.41, Hannah Miley found herself in an a rare place after butterfly: ahead. And that’s where she stayed, all the way to a 4:32.15 victory and an automatic ticket to the World Championships this August. The cut at 4:33.01, Aimee Willmott, fell shy – but a 4:33.66 is more than likely to be enough when selectors make their cut next week

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Out in 1:02.41, Hannah Miley found herself in an a rare place after butterfly: ahead. And that’s where she stayed, all the way to a 4:32.15 victory and an automatic ticket to the World Championships this August. The cut at 4:33.01, Aimee Willmott, fell shy – but a 4:33.66 is more than likely to be enough when selectors make their cut next week

Comments

Iain

Very disappointing from Adam Barrett – only third in the fly in 52.78

But may get one of the six ‘wild card’ picks
http://www.swimvortex.com/lizzie-simmonds-bags-last-of-8-automatic-world-title-berths-in-brit-curtain-closer/

commonwombat

Will be curious to see what “gymnastics” GBR selectors will perform in order to select their World’s team, and how they publically justify the “discretionary calls” given the failure to meet Qualifying times criteria in a very wide number of events.
http://www.swimvortex.com/lizzie-simmonds-bags-last-of-8-automatic-world-title-berths-in-brit-curtain-closer/

Carol

Iain I do hope so as none made the 2% his relay skills lost could do real damage even with Peaty
http://www.swimvortex.com/lizzie-simmonds-bags-last-of-8-automatic-world-title-berths-in-brit-curtain-closer/

Iain

‘Will be curious to see what “gymnastics” GBR selectors will perform in order to select their World’s team, and how they publically justify the “discretionary calls” given the failure to meet Qualifying times criteria in a very wide number of events.’

The selectors can select anyone within 2% of the harder set of times. These plus the auto qualifiers come to about 23 I think. Then there are 6 totally discretionary picks. But the selectors have basically made it clear they’ll select whoever they want.

I hope Barrett is picked, he only went 52.5 at trials last year. But if not, James Guy could swim the fly leg. I do wonder if some of the relay only swimmers will be able to swim individual events (eg Proud)?

The men’s 200m was good, bodes well for that relay.
http://www.swimvortex.com/lizzie-simmonds-bags-last-of-8-automatic-world-title-berths-in-brit-curtain-closer/

Dee

Commonwombat,

BS have 6 ‘discretionary’ picks – Other than that, if you are not within 2% of the guaranteed qualification time, you will not be considered for selection. A lot of spots are already taken by athletes who are part of relay teams that are within 2% and are 95% assured of selection. The policy is complex, but very clear. Now, it might be so that the 2% is not set in stone, but that is what the discretionary spots are for.

I recall similar shadyness from the Canadian’s recently and the Aussies a while back in an attempt to get Libby Trickett onto the plane to Shanghai – Which of course resulted in Guehrer beating her.

Having said all that – It seems fairly obvious to me that British Swimming set such tough QTs to ensure that the team size did not exceed the allocated amount of spots, as to avoid any appeals and such. Hopefully QTs are fairer for Olympic Trials – It is beyond foolish to have QTs that make even American & Australian QTs look easy.

Dee

Iain,

BS have suggested there will be leniency for relay selected swimmers – In other words, if you are picked for a relay and there are free swims in events you swam at nationals, you will probably be allowed to swim them. I suspect the likes of Kelly, Taylor and Proud will be given their individual swims if selected for relays as expected.

I’d watch the men’s junior 4×200 too… Scott 1.48, Kurle & Chisholm 1.49s and Walton 1.50.0… very fast squad going to Euro Juniors.

Nick

Not directly relevant to the WC this year – or next year in Rio for that matter – but GB have 69 Olympic qualification times across all but the men’s fly events since the qualification period commenced at the beginning of March. That is way ahead of where they were just four months before the last games. I’m interested to see what qualification standards BS will set for Rio, ie. will it be the same again or more in line with 2012?

felixtzu

Disceretionary picks are a bad idea.

beachmouse

The official American QTs are somewhat ‘easy’- they’ll take the top two inside the FINA A standard and not add more layers on top of that. It’s the competition that’s typically what gets you, save for the occasionally weak event like the women’s 200 fly in 2013 where they only had three women inside that A standard within the qualifying period.

Verram

Discretionary picks are messy because it’s pretty much undermines the swimmers who finish ahead of ‘star’ swimmers who make the team based on reputation

Cayley Guimarães

Swimming is the sport. Competition is the name of the game. Winning is the goal.

If a nation (let’s say States United of Down Under) is so competitive that her two best swimmers meet FINA A standards, and are also among the very best in the world, capable of winning, that is a plus.

Otherwise, to set a QT faster than the FINA A standards can serve as an incentive for the athletes to strive for excellence, to work harder, in order to achieve those QT.

I am from Brazil, and I was very happy when this latter selection criteria (fast QT) was adopted. A lot of crying, and only a handful of swimmers selected at first.

BUT, the athletes, per their very nature, are prone to accept a challenge: swimming leaped to more decent levels in Brazil as swimmers became faster in order to achieve QT.

Overall, it proved to be beneficial for a developing nation.

Of course I am not naïve: some athletes are willing to win at any cost by all and any means (e.g. several kicks on the breaststroke, and the use of PED) – but that is the case regardless of a QT.

aswimfan

I agree with beachmouse, the American QT are simple and straightforward, and nothing to be compared to, as they will take anyone finish in top 2 with FINA A plus relay alternates.

British selectors are in very difficult situation now if they want to take Barratt. They are already two 100 flyers finishing ahead of Barratt and one of them would certainly be not very happy if they pick Barratt instead of him. Very messy. This is what you get when you give selectors much discretionary power.

China is infamous for wielding discretionary power when selecting their team. There were a mess in the women back and fly selection in 2011/2012, but then again the chinese may not yet accustomed (read: allowed) to challenging their authority.

aswimfan

Cayles,

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Brazil have several qualifying meets, while for the GBR it’s only one meet.
These multiple meets mitigating the harshness and unpredictability of tougher QT. And I am not even sure that the Brazilian selectors have as much discretionary power as the BS selectors.

aswimfan

Also, the “tough” Brazil’s QT are nothing compared to GBR or even AUS.

beachmouse

I will note that part of the reason why the Americans don’t have discretionary picks for the International A squads is because it largely prevents lawsuits over team selection.

Sadly, it’s the nature of the sporting beast over here that lawsuits are a consideration.

Bad Anon

Miley 4.32.1 not fully tapered is amazing. She is one of the potential sub 4.30 swimmers in Kazan /Rio

aswimfan

Again, I agree with you beachmouse on the lawsuit aspect.

commonwombat

Sorry BA, but not really seeing Miley as a sub 4.30. Not dissing her in anyway; indeed I respect her as a competitor and for maintaining the standard she has (low 4.30s) for as long as she has. However, I just don’t think she has that ‘extra gear’. If the Kazan or Rio finals are relatively slow races/tactical affairs; then she certainly in the mix but otherwise I fear she may be just off the podium as she was in Beijing & London.

Craig Lord

I think you’re wrong, commonwombat … I think she has a big swim in her that we haven’t seen yet.

felixtzu

I agree with commonwombat. I’d be very happy for Miley to prove us wrong, but she’s had big swims, she’s been going for a while, and clearly she has always worked very hard. Any improvements will probably be small.

felixtzu

The straightforward USA qualifying system fits in with all factors that make them good competitors. You know when you’ve got to perform and what you’ve got to do. Disrectionary picks breed weakness, even if individual cases seem like such a good idea.

The legal angle may be the reason why the Americans use a clear first past the post, but in the end all they’re doing is mimicing actual championship realities. And I fear there may be some strong disagreement to this, but I believe one incident that really dulled the competitive edge of the great sporting nation of Australia was a 2004 Olympic 400free berth going to a swimmer who had been disqualified in their trials.

Craig Lord

felixtzu – you could say the same of all of those in line for honours in Rio right now … only Hannah Miley improved her textile suit time last year, none others in line did that.

Bad Anon

Ye Shiwen is the only one to swim sub 4.30 in textile thanx to an “anomalous” split. any swimmer who will succeed to break that magical barrier will need to swim a very smart race, Hosszu just 0.41sec shy in textiles and most likely to be the first

11Ron

The GB selection process is all about Rio not Kazan; remember BS’s funding is dependent on the medals at Olympics and not Worlds.

With that they only want to take swimmers who a) could get on the podium at Kazan (hence the A and B times being so tough) or b) who would realistically benefit in their prep for Rio by swimming in Russia. For example if Miley hadn’t made the 2% threshold when winning I doubt she’d have been picked as she doesn’t need the experience. I expect the 6 spots to go to those who are improving with an eye on Rio.

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