Gabriele Detti Puts Rosolino’s 2000 Mark On Notice At 3:43; Luca Dotto A Pioneer On 47.96

Gabriele Detti by Patrick B. Kraemer
Gabriele Detti by Patrick B. Kraemer

When Massimiliano Rosolino swam out of his skin for silver behind Ian Thorpe in 3:43.40 at the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games, it was clear that his Italian standard would stand the test of time. It remains the national record to this day: just. Gabriele Detti, 21, came of age over 8 laps this evening in Riccione, a 3:43.97 victory clobbering all others in the race and his 3:46.46 best of a year ago; Luca Dotto first Italian man to crack 48, on 47.96 leading his club relay

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aswimfan

I hope this year will be the year that Thorpe’s WR will finally be broken
It’s been 14 years long, by far the longest-standing male WR ever.

aswimfan

Let me put a condition to that, I hope someone will finally break 400 WR, but not Sun Yang please.

ThereaLuigi

I sensed this was coming, his 3:46 in heats was very smooth and easy.

Detti is peaking just at the right time. I don’t know where he fits best in the scheme of things, I hope not the 800 because that’s not an Olympic event …

Massi Rosolino’s time never convinced me. He improved his PB by 5 secs in Sydney. That’s just too much.

ThereaLuigi

Ps Aswimfan, I think it was broken, albeit in a rubber suit.

But that’s only because Thorpie pulled the brakes in his last lap in 2002, or it would still be standing, supersuits and all.

ThereaLuigi

woooooa, I just realized that Dotto smashed the 48 barrier leading the 4×100 free relay!!! First Italian swimmer to do that!!! Now if he can maintain form until Rio and Orsi is in good shape too, we might have an interesting quartet!

Felix Sanchez

Ian Thorpe was a special swimmer, and so it’s understandable that his time has lasted so well, but right now genuine middle distance swimmers seem so rare. The heir to Thorpe we want is someone with good 200 speed, willing to do the yardage required for the 400. Instead there’s a worrying pattern of guys like Agnel and Biedermann quickly losing interest in the 400, leaving the event in the hands of the plodders and stagnant on the clock.

Obviously, that said, Yang has been very close to the WR – that’s another opening day controversy in the making if he turns up in Rio and cracks 3.40.

Felix Sanchez

I don’t think Thorpe pulled his brakes on his 400 WR, but Manchester is a bit of a slow pool, so could have ‘cost’ him that crucial 0.01 or more.

Craig Lord

very funny, Felix… ‘slow pool’; ‘0.01’ – that would require some skill of perception 🙂

Yozhik

Pellegrini’s 1:54.86 in relay is good considering that her execution plan was most likely dictated by racing conditions when she started more than a 6 sec behind leader. When she swims tomorrow a solo race and there would be nobody around I hope she will have smarter splits that will bring her under 1:55. Not like a second half she swam today 29.71-28.81

Felix Sanchez

No no, not perceiving exactly 0.01, but given that Thorpey lost his WR by a mere 0.01 the handicap of swimming it in Manchester paddling pool might have been crucial.

aswimfan

TL,

I know that Biedermann broke Thorpe’s WR by 0.01 (sheesshh.. I saw that Rome race live on tv and Biedermann was just speeding past the WR line on the last metres). I was talking textile WR, the 3:40.08 is the men’s longest standing textile WR ever, past and present. The second longest standing is PVDH’s 100 free and the third is Barrowman’s 200 breast.

Craig Lord

I think you exaggerate a touch, Felix 🙂 “paddling pool” it is not – the Commonwealth Games were held there, Brit nationals etc… and the times were not ‘slow’

ThereaLuigi

he did pull the brakes, Felix. I remember it distinctly.

Craig Lord

I was there – he did not let up all the way to the wall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_FwRjBC8Io

ThereaLuigi

Craig I am not sure if you are contradicting me or siding with me but he was 1 sec ahead of WR until 300 metres plus he said he slowed down himself (in his autobiography). This could have been a 3:39, I am positive.

felix

Well Luigi it wasn’t so who cares, fact is he is the greatest male middle distance swimmer ever easily. As for the Italian men in Sydney… I will say no more

aswimfan

Rosolino was named by the mafia as one of the buyers and users of PED.
And yes, the improvement of Italian men in 2000 Sydney was more in line of Michelle Smith’s than Katie Ledecky’s.

aswimfan

men 4×100 free landscape at Rio:

In Kazan, the m4x10 free finalists were: France, Russia, Italy, Brazil, Poland, Japan, China, Canada.

Surely two of those 8 will have to make way for USA and Australia, the question is which countries. I think Poland, China and Canada are vulnerable.

Rafael

With orsi Italy will be safe
Brazil France and Russia based on trials are safe. The other 4 are about the same level for the 2 spots unless us trials becomes a disaster. Medley relay will have some changes too. Germany Poland even France without giacomo may be left out. Brazil and Italy can sneak in

aswimfan

Rafael,
Germany?

ThereaLuigi

Please Felix and Aswimfan do not tar everyone with the same brush. Rosolino’s feats are dubious, but Fioravanti was something else entirely.

Rafael

Germany was a finalist last year at medley relay

aswimfan

Ah medley relay… yes

Craig Lord

ThereaLuigi, yes, important to make a distinction: that Rosolino, who denied any wrongdoing, was indeed cited in all the reports about the CONI trials tests and what they found (and he responded and that was widely publicised), whereas Fioravanti was not a part of that. For those who can and wish to be reminded, some of what it was all about:
In an article in the Corriere della Sera, published on 14 October 2000, a report started:
“Something was wrong with the blood of our samples. Something was awry in the return of Growth Hormone levels, the ‘growth hormone levels of five of our Olympic gold medallists. Links to moe reading in Italian:
http://simonesalvador.blogspot.com/2012/12/il-caso-gh-sidney-2000-e-lo.html
http://www2.raisport.rai.it/news/inchieste/doping/200010/14/39e8710401c66/

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