Campbell Sisters Have The 2-Lapper Licked: Cate, 52.3; Bronte 52.5 – 9/10 All-Time Textile

Cate and Bronte Campbell celebrate their sister act in Adelaide - Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images - courtesy of Arena
Cate and Bronte Campbell celebrate their sister act in Adelaide - Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images - courtesy of Arena

The Australian sizzling sisters of speed have got this two-lap lark in their grip: so much so that after a 52.38 from Cate Campbell and a 52.58 from younger sibling Bronte Campbell in the hunt for the two tickets available for Dolphins in the there and back at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, there is room for only one place in the all-time top 10 in textile for a swimmer not called Campbell. Emma McKeon on 52.80, 4x100m prospects soar as Brittany Elmslie comes home in 53.4

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aswimfan

McKeon closed in 27.46, only 0.06 seconds faster than Cate. Being 1:54 200 free swimmer, I feel that she should be able to come home faster. I feel that McKeon has the most room to improve. This is the first full year she has trained under Michael Bohl. Don’t be surprised if next year she bumps one of the Campbells out of a spot to 2017 World Championships.

aswimfan

C2 has proved again that she is a big time/big event performer. She seems to me like a scrapper/warrior and doesn’t crumble under pressure. 52.58 while injured shows very strong mental. I think she will do well in Rio, although I am hoping C1 will win it.

ThereaLuigi

As I said elsewhere, Australia has 3 under 53 female swimmers, while by comparison in my country, almost 3 times bigger, not one has cracked yet 54 in textile!

The Aussies are the best at freestyle, there is no question about it.

gheko

Bronze medal for sure in the relay, not good enough girls! lol

Yozhik

Making first half faster doesn’t t work for Cate Campbell.
Barcelona 2013
24.85 – 27.49 ( 52.34)
25.19 – 27.14 (52.33)

Adelaide 2016
25.12 – 27.29 (52.41)
24.86 – 27.52 (52.38)

commonwombat

One cannot help thinking that voodoo stockists in various countries may be expecting a rush in business after that W100free ! LOL

Given how fragile physically and health-wise, there will be also be a lot of crossed fingers and prayers to whatever deities on the part of SAL officials.

I will agree with ASF’s assessment of C2; underneath all the smiles and the charm offensive is one very steely competitor. Given she came into this meet under a cloud AND the very legitimate assault on Castle Campbell by McKeon; her performance was total class ….. an appellation which can truly be attached to all top four placegetters. Chapeau ladies !

gheko

She swam 52.38 mate, how she swims her races is her business, its working for her!

gheko

And well done to Britt Elmslie over coming breast cancer to swim 53.5, great stuff!

commonwombat

Gheko, whilst it was surgery and that’s never a pleasant experience; the tumour was benign and identified as such beforehand

Commenter

52.80 to not get an individual swim is just ridiculous. There are no words

Also, gheko, Elmslie never had cancer. She just had a cyst removed.

Relay team in Rio is unbeatable barring disaster such as injury or a DQ. World record will be annihilated.

aswimfan

Yozhik,
Making the first half slower also doesn’t result in faster overall swim for Cate.
Cate has by far the fastest easy/raw speed. It doesn’t make any sense to tell her to slow down. It’s her main weapon.

Here’s the video:
https://twitter.com/7olympics/status/719864198419709952

She was ahead of the WR line until the last 6 meters where Steffen’s wretched Adidas hydrofoil propelled her to the finish line.

When Magnussen swam 47.10 and Campbell did 52.33 in Barcelona, I was optimistic that we could see both sprint WRs broken by this year. But now it seems it will have to last longer until the next generation of sprinter superstars appear.

gheko

yeah but she delivered when it counted after weeks out of the pool. she can only get better 3 under 52, and the weak link 53.5!

gheko

Sorry 53! lol

Yozhik

Gheko, I asked Craig Lord about this statistics, but he is very busy with trial season now. I have an impression that Cate Campbell has one of the best second half at 100 race and that is where her power is.

gheko

She went out in 24.8 mate, her front end is as dangerous as her backend

aswimfan

The good news is that, I think with Cate can still go faster than 52.3
Why?
1. She split 51.5 in relay
2. In this final (see video above), her finish was clearly short (similar to Chalmers’ finish yesterday), so with just a better finish she could swim 52.1 – 52.2

gheko

I think so as well but i also think Bronte can go that as well, exciting times for the Aussie swim team!

gheko

What a great swim by Emma as well 52.8 would get the swim in every other country!

aswimfan

Had Emma swum for the Netherlands or Sweden, she would not have had to fully taper or fully rested to get qualified 🙂

RSASprinter

@Gheko, 52.80 would have won the 100 free at every Olympics.

David Brooks

Do you think there’s a case for wild cards for the Olympics for anyone ranked in the top 10 who doesn’t make their nation’s team? If we’re trying to find the very best, it would be helpful if the top swimmers all make it to the blocks.
Australia would have a chance (remote perhaps) to sweep this event.

ThereaLuigi

They introduced the 2-per-nation rule exactly to avoid that, David Brooks.

David Brooks

Well, back when the US (and to a lesser extent GDR and AUS) were so dominant, I could see the point. But surely the sport is international enough now to not need to artificially handicap the top nations. How many sweeps would we be talking about anyway? One or two, three max. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, and if it buys tickets for some of the top swimmers who will otherwise miss out (like McEweon), then it’s worth doing.

aswimfan

Rsasprinter,
That’s one stunning fact. It must have been a long time ago the last time the third finisher in an Olympics trials would have won every single Olympics.

ThereaLuigi

David, you are preaching to the choir. I hate the 2-per-nation rule.

Craig Lord

They won’t do it David B… neither at Olympics nor worlds… it would show how universality is not to do with elite sport and how, in a sport like swimming, you’re looking at 20 and a few more in some events, nations, not the 200-plus they advertise, a membership that helps grant FINA the same funds as Track and field from IOC broadcast funds. They want to be able to say “Look X number of nations on the podium, more than before, universality is working…” in sporting terms: 3 per nation for those ranked world top 10 would mean more medals for the biggest nations and less for everyone else. The show would be more thrilling for it but that’s not the kind of show they want…

Yozhik

Asf, I have no recommendations for Cate Campbell how to swim 100m race. And even if I do have then who cares about it 🙂 The only reason I posted my observations is to help to understand Cate Campbell’s style and to see if there is some resources left for further progress. Maybe she doesn’t need any more progress. Whatever she achieved already put her on the pedestal unreachable to others. When we are looking at sport car in general terms we are getting very emotional and impressed with its look, power and performance. When we are looking at sport car as a racing machine we are going into technical details leaving excitement aside. In contrast to Emma McKeon who by improving her initial part of the race made amazing progress in both 200m and 100m, Cate Campbell looks like she has already found the optimal balance. Gaining some time by swimming faster out causes about the same lost on the way in. Usually in such situation is easier to find extra resources at the slow part of the race than in faster one. On the other hand her joke that 101m distance will kill her gives some clue how intense her finish is already. Interesting to note that she takes fast ( under 25sec ) start in finals when the pressure from competitors is high and swims more balance race in semi or relay (first leg).

aswimfan

Yozhik,
I think you hit this part right:
“Cate Campbell looks like she has already found the optimal balance. Gaining some time by swimming faster out causes about the same lost on the way in”
From the stats of her swims, it doesn’t matter if she went out in 24.80-24.90 or 25.2, the overall swim didn’t differ much if at all.

However, imho, there are still area for improvement:
1. Start… Her RT is still the slowest by far among elite sprinters. she can win 100 with such slow start, but it is over obvious that her start cost her 50 free golds. With her such crazy fast raw/easy speed, she should have killed 50 free everytime.
2. Finish .. in the final, her finish was very short.
3. Underwater, especially off the start.

Yozhik

I’m still under impression of McKeon races at trials. She had been at 53.43 two years ago without practically any progress since. She swam 53.57 in relay (!) in Kazan. Her 200m fs there was terrible – 1:56.41(was she sick?). Her performance in Kazan gave the hope to other relay teams that Australians can be challenged. And just 8 months later – 1:54.84 and 52.80. What has changed? Technic, physique, mental stability? Or everything together? Is it all about her coach. She is not at the age when sudden uncontrolled changes are happening within woman body. More questions then answers. Very unexpected and powerful performance at this meet.

Personal Best

Alicia Coutts did well too; she gained the spot due to Wilson pulling out and managed a 54.0.

It really looks like the relay lineup is all sewn up, but of course that’s barring any health problems on the way to the games.

There are so many options for the relay heats, they could well rest the top three entirely (they could rest the top 4 really, with Seebohm and Wilson in the mix too for heats).

Personal Best

McKeon moved to a new coach; probably one of the best ever in Australia.
I’m not sure exactly when that happened (past few years), but that definitely helped.

In her interview after the 200 free final she did say she had been aiming to swim a 1:54 two years prior, but that hadn’t been achieved.

Bohl’s squad has been so good at this meet and in years prior.

Yozhik

Alicia has bad experience by losing twice when anchoring team efforts. Will Australians do it one more time? 🙂

aswimfan

Yozhik,

I have written several times in my comments about mcKeon (I know how you love my comments haha), what has changed for mcKeon is that this is the first full year that she trained under Michael Bohl.
In 2014-2015 she changed coach twice. In Kazan, she had been coahced on trials basis with Bohl only for a few a few months.
In 2014 she was still trained by her father Ron, and then moved to train with Vince Raleigh, and then moved to Brisbane and trained under Bohl last year.
Last year I already wrote here to be aware of mcKeon progress under Bohl after a year. And I was right.

aswimfan

Yozhik,
why would Australia use Alicia for 4×100 free?
She’s not even Australia’s fifth fastest. She’s sixth or seventh at best.

Robbos

Yozhik,

It will be;

Cate Campbell
Emma McKeon
Brit Elmslie
Bronte Campbell

Unless some dramatically changes, with swimmers already in the team, swimming other events (Seebohm, Wilson, Coutts, Barrett & Ngawati) swimming in the heat swim pending their form over the 100 free at the time.

Yozhik

Asf, sorry for concussion. I was kidding. Just remember how it was painful for Coutts to loose relay having such a huge lead. The entire Australian team forgetting of losing gold tried to cheer up Allicia. It was a great example of sport comradeship.

Yozhik

Someone (don’t remember who exactly) wrote here that anybody can win gold swimming with the right team. Now I am beginning to believe that. Having three under 53 swimmers the Australian team can afford the luxury to invite anybody from available pool to swim fourth leg. Unless they want to set unbreakable in decades world record they can give that honer to Allicia ( her time at trials are not bad at all).

Yozhik

Coutts with 54.09 is #5 Astralian sprinter.

Craig Lord

And on Pbs, Yozhik, of those edible for Rio 2016, as things stand:

53.78 Coutts 2011
53.92 Seebohm 2015

It will come down to head coach/coaches discretion (sometimes time trials) at the Games to assess prevailing form

Yozhik

I was not even going to discuss the Australian relay team in Rio. Personal Best mentioned Allcia Coutts’ good reces at trials. It rang the bell reminding 2013 drama when Australian team with two Sisters and one world record lost the gold to American team at last leg. The following discussion was just killing the time before dinner 🙂 sorry if it wasn’t entertaining 🙂

Robbos

It was entertaining, just didn’t make sense, thought you were making a contribution.

You have someone who is aging, her best time is 2011 & she swims 54.09, while you have a young girl who just swam a PB & is improving @ 53.5, now if weren’t just trying to entertain, this would not have been a discussion.

I remember 2013, when was the other time Coutts let go of an unassailable lead?

Personal Best

Yep; I was just thinking that Australia could potentially field a completely different team for heats given the strong swims of people like Coutts.
I would also venture to say that Seebohm will want in on the action, as would Wilson, given their trials’ efforts.
Then you’ve got Ngawati and Barratt.

I wasn’t suggesting that Coutts would swim the final; but interesting to note as mentioned that nothing is set in stone even from the strongest team in terms of who can perform on the day.

Yozhik

Robots, what contribution are you talking about? Contribution to WHAT? You got to be kidding.

Robbos

It was entertainment as you said yourself!!!! Not much of a contribution to the relay you were talking about!!!!

What about the 2nd failure by Coutts when was that?

Yozhik

W4x200 Barcelona 2103.

Yozhik

Robots, was ‘Barcelona 2103’ entertaining? I wish we could see that. 🙂 Barcelona 2013, of course.

Yozhik

Sorry for misspelling your name. My autocorrect has no idea who Robbos is and tries to help me with something stupid. Please excuse it for that. It is just a soulless computer program.

Robbos

Barcelona is a great city & a great football team.

Coutts a medley & 100 free swimmer, not even in top 2 in country up against the gold medalist in the 200. Not a fair race!!!!

Robbos

No worries about spelling.

aswimfan

Robbos,
You must have meant Coutts a medley and 100 fly swimmer.

aswimfan

Yozhik,

It’s true. Anybody -provided they are fast enough to be selected to serve in relays- can win gold if they are on the right team.

Let’s take an example of your favorite swimmer, Ledecky. Because she’s on US team, she can only hope to win one relay gold (4×200), but if she’s on Australian team, there’s a great chance she can win TWO relay golds (1 gold from swimming 4×100 free prelims and another from 4×200). Maybe you can talk to her and tell her she can boost the number of her Olympics golds if she change her nationality to Australia? 🙂

aswimfan

If Sjostrom were to swim for Australia she would have won THREE relay golds easy in Rio, and would have been the greatest ever female swimmer in the history of swimming, if, we think relay golds are as valuable as individual golds in measuring greatness.
🙂

aswimfan

Can you imagine the 4×100 relay of:
Cate Campbell – Emma mcKeon – Bronte Campbell – Sarah Sjostrom

That is my dream relay,
This is the relay to end all relays.
And the WR they set will last until the next generation of gene doping hit the market.

Robbos

ASF, not sure how she would be the greatest female swimmer of all time, she might not even qualify for 50 & 100 free for the Australian team. As for 4×200, with Sjostram, I think it would be close between Australians & the Americans.

aswimfan

Robbos,
I was just kidding, was trying to amuse Yozhik, who indicated that he wanted some entertainment before his dinner time. 🙂

Robbos

Got you. Mack just went 15.48 in the heats of 1500 & turned to coach & just shrugged his shoulders.

Yozhik

Robbos, I wasn’t talking about fairness or unfairness of Coutts’ relay races. Her races touched me by bitterness of the drama of those who hasn’t won. Unfortunately that is unavoidable part of competitive sport. Imagine feelings of the girl who’s team created for her the advantage of 1.16 second and she failed to finish first. Ok, it was Missy Franklin at her best year who beat her. But when in few days you anchor again with the advantage of 0.72 sec with only 100m to go and you are loosing again at the last meters then it will be beyond human abilities to withstand such frustration. People can get broken by such sequence of mishaps. That’s why I suggested half seriously that Australian team may decide to compensate Alicia for such sufferings. But we all know that Olympic team coaches will never let emotions to dictate the decision when the Olympic gold medal is in question.

Robbos

I understand Yozhik, now!!!!
Maybe a heat swim to give her gold to go with the gold she got already as a final swimmer in 2012 London. maybe they can also give Barrett one too.

Robert Traynor

Great work by the Campbell sisters, who gave it their all. In fact, you could hear a groan of exhaustion from Cate when they embraced immediately after the race. A minute or so later, the Channel 7 interviewer had to give them a moment to compose themselves they were that spent, especially Bronte, who looked to be in a bit of pain.

Fine coverage from Channel 7. Grant Hackett has been outstanding in commentary. There’s a guy who really knows his swimming stats. He had some sage things to say about when Australia should hold its Olympic swimming trials. He thinks they should be held later, a la the American trials.

aswimfan

Hackett spent too much time with Bowman and Phelps and look what it did to him. 🙂

USA has to hold their Olympics trials later not because they want to, but because they have no other choice. They can’t hold it earlier because there is NCAA national championships in early March and it is unfair to NCAA swimmers that they had to prepare and taper for SCY, and told to hold their taper for a trials in early April? That’s not gonna work. And they’ve tried it before, once, and it didn’t work.

Craig Lord

hope that was 14:48, Robbos … though he’d have made the final anyway 🙂

Mark Bendall

Craig,
Cate Campbell didn’t win a relay gold in Barcelona in 2013 as you suggest in the article. Australia were beaten by the USA. And Australia only has 4/10, not 5/10, in your list of the 100m freestyle fastest swimmers in 2016.

Craig Lord

All good Mark, thanks… a season of much work, as you’ll have noticed 🙂

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