Adam Peaty Says Sports Reputation At Risk; Urges WADA/FINA To Ensure Clean Rio 2016

Adam Peaty of Great Britain - by Patrick B. Kraemer
Adam Peaty of Great Britain - by Patrick B. Kraemer

Adam Peaty, Britain’s double World breaststroke champion and record holder, has called on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and FINA to “get it right” and make sure everyone heading into battle in Brazil at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is as tested, checked and monitored as he is

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gheko

The problem is not the tests, its the undetectable drugs being used, hopefully the cheats will be caught even 10 yrs from now.

aswimfan

Slapping only a warning for clenbuterol is hilarious.

And why is China allowed to give the minimum or sometimes no punishment (ie. “retroactive ban”) for dopers while less powerful countries like Thailand, Indonesia, India must give years of ban for same or similar situation?

Craig Lord

Precisely, aswimfan… and it appears FINA has spotted that this time – hence the review… we shall see… a minimum 1 year would be required in my view, Ning Zetao having been served that despite the view in China that meat contamination not cheating was to blame.

p1robi

Anyone in the know; knows which countries are cheating.

Eugene

Nowadays elite sport is more competitive than it has ever been. Everyone there is almost equally skilled, everyone is motivated and genetically talented, everyone has access to all the necessary info, equipment, nutrition etc. Everyone can even travel to another country and be coached by any specialist they would like. So if world class athlete A is constantly using doping and world class athlete B has always been clean, it’s a pure nonsense when their results are really close. Doper will be miles away even in a short 50 m race. Those who lift weights and have tried even the most basic steroids know what I’m talking about. For example, if Yulia (Efimova) was really doped and Ruta was 100% clean, the later would have had absolutely no chance to win.

aswimfan

Eugene,
I hope you are not serious with your “theory”.

Craig Lord

Your theory is bull****, Eugene. Such views are not welcome here – they taint everyone, unreasonable; unfair – and untrue. Leave it there. Thanks.

Eugene

Wow, thank you guys for these well-argued replies to my post 🙂 I won’t even ask you to explain what exactly made you think of it as a bull***t. It seems you just haven’t dealt with doping IRL and had no chance to compare physical abilities of two equally skilled/talented people one of which is pharmacologically enhanced and second one is not.

P. S. By no means I alluded to any world class athlete mentioned in this article and comments to be a cheater 🙂

Yozhik

It is worth to spend time for well-argued replies should your post contain references to the reliable scientific sources or world recognised experts in swimming, but not just to your weights lifting doped friends.
I completely understand the reaction of Aswimfan and Craig Lord – don’t want the ***t to smell, then don’t touch it.

Craig Lord

It is Bull**** because it assumes they all start the battle to get to where they are with the same skills and possibilities – they don’t, Eugene… your argument is if Michelle Smith got her three golds as she did, and she fell foul of doping rules, it goes without saying that all those who made the podium at Atlanta 1996 (etc etc etc through history) could have their successes explained in the same way. That is bull**** – and you know it. You are simply refusing to acknowledge that dopers cheat to get there but there are plenty who do not dope and get there too, legitimately. I believe your assumption is very far from the truth. We’ve been here before Eugene: your argument is not accepted here. I get your argument, I don’t accept it. Leave it there. Thanks.

Eugene

How do you imagine the scientific research on that, Yozhik? The group of scientists take a bunch of swimming world champs at their prime and one half of them is getting injections during a year or two and then they compare the results in some competition? 😀

No scientific sources needed here. This stuff (not cardio-protectors of course) when properly taken just works. And the gains just can’t be few hundredths of a second. Swimming is not weight lifting but it still relies on strength, power, speed and other qualities which can be boosted a lot by pharmacology. Don’t be naive.

Craig Lord

This stuff, Eugene, kills, it maims, it hurts, it damages on several levels. It is unacceptable – it is not fair play, not clean sport and we don’t condone it nor do we celebrate it here. Like I said: LEAVE IT THERE – I don’t agree with you and I don’t find your arguments in any sense convincing.

Eugene

>”This stuff, Eugene, kills, it maims, it hurts, it damages on several levels. It is unacceptable – it is not fair play, not clean sport and we don’t condone it nor do we celebrate it here.”
Did I say the opposite in this thread? You see what you want to see 🙂

>”LEAVE IT THERE”
No problem, boss! Left it there 🙂

Craig Lord

You didn’t leave it there, Eugene, you claim I see what i want to see when in fact you know very well that my point is good: you seem to believe that if it takes doping to get swimmer C to the podium, it stands to reason that swimmer B and A must have gone that way too. I don’t accept that. And if you do not, then state it and make your point clearer than you have. Right now, there is a whole load of thread with your name on it that indicates that you condone doping and think it a part of modern sport, with a big so-what shrug. If you feel differently, then state it and tell us so. If I have you right, then leave it alone: your point is as obvious as it is bad. Thanks

Yozhik

@Eugene. There was an article about Slovenian Tanja Smid being tested positive recently. I like one comment to this article: ‘if she was really doping to get better results she wasn’t doing a very good job’.
The scientific research of effectiveness of PED for different groups of healthy people is the corner stone for any pharmaceutical companies that are involved in PED production. I would be surprised if WADA doesn’t rely on the results of similar research when prohibits particular substances. So the level of performance improvement and limits are well known and well calculated. There are no magic pills that can make world champion from anybody. It is very possible that improvent caused by drugs for some people are comparable with naturally given abilities of another people’s. You yourself run unconsciously (or consciously) such research when referring to known to you cases with weights lifters.
I am sure that you understand perfectly what I am talking about, but it doesn’t stop you for making such postings that smells very bad. Why do you do it? What are your motives? You never explained. That’s why everybody who reads such your opuses has all moral rights to name them with proper name.

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