Adam Peaty? Fearless Fighter And A Man Of Courage In Right Frame Of Mind Every Day

Adam Peaty - 0.59 reaction on the way to 57.92 - by Gian Mattia D'Alberto / lapresse

“He is like a soldier going over the top of the trench. You can shoot at him and shoot at him and you will not stop him moving forward” – Coach Mel Marshall. Adam Peaty will arrive at the World Championships this August with a rare status in tow: a Brit perceived as a ‘dead cert’ for a world swimming title in the way that Katie Ledecky is in the three distance freestyle events

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“He is like a soldier going over the top of the trench. You can shoot at him and shoot at him and you will not stop him moving forward” – Coach Mel Marshall. Adam Peaty will arrive at the World Championships this August with a rare status in tow: a Brit perceived as a ‘dead cert’ for a world swimming title in the way that Katie Ledecky is in the three distance freestyle events

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aswimfan

Unless he is injured or do, he will take Kazan and Rio golds, Thank you very much.

He seems likeable and he is not bad looking at all, so if his parents are savvy, they would already be on the phone with potential managers or IMG sports right now, if he doesn’t have a manager already.

aswimfan

Injured or dq

The autocorrect feature is really annoying

Danjohnrob

I think British Swimming needed a central figure for the other athletes to look up to as a leader, for the citizens of the nation to look to as a sign that their investment in swimming has been worth the sacrifice. Well, now they have one! The rest of the world better be paying attention…

Bill Bell

What Peaty did was incredible. No doubt about it. But BEFORE the Queen Knight’s him and makes him First Lord of the Admiralty and BEFORE he counts his Kazan and Rio golds/wrs let’s remember que pasa to Sr. Holland @ Montreal, Her Gross en el 200 fly @ LA, Sr. Biondi in 100 fly @Seoul, Morales NOT making ’88 U.S. Olympic team, etc.

NOBODY’s a lock for ANYTHING — EVER!

You don’t think Van Der Burgh has taken all those posts about “Peaty this” and “Peaty that” and posted ’em on his locker door???

Let him bask in his glory now but come Monday…back to work!

Craig Lord

Bill Bell: Mr Peaty didn’t need you to tell him – he’d said it before you got there… in the article 🙂

mcgillrocks

Or Yamaguchi going from WR holder in 2012 to 9th in the world rankings in 2013 and 20th in ’14, with no international medals.

For that matter, he hasn’t had a best time in any breaststroke event since then.

Craig Lord

Quite, mcgillrocks but that scenario wouldn’t really apply to Mr Peaty, he being a European and before that Commonwealth champion ahead of the Olympic champion, so proven under pressure in intl waters, Yamaguchi never having achieved anything close to that.

felixtzu

No one is unbeatable, but the above comments are really focusing on two different things. Someone else can get better, or you can get worse.

The first one is unlikely here. Van Der Burgh may be motivated, and he is a great competitor, but it would be very surprising if he could drop that much time.

Yamaguchi hasn’t missed out on international medals because of other people, but because he hasn’t been able to back up his great time. Of course his WR isn’t that far ahead of the field, whereas Peaty is now in the Ledecky bracket of having a clear advantage on the known competition.

Chris

For me his the favourite and rightly so for Kazan and that’s a bit of an unusual thing for British swimming after a disappointing Olympics in 2012 and awful worlds in 2013 to have someone up there as Gold medal favourite going in. Having said that there is still a long way to go to the Olympics and a new young talent could emerge that year. Adlington to use a British example was the favourite going into London and then a new talent blew everyone away.
Good that World Records are still being broken and that the Super Suits era does not mean that they can’ be broken. Its amazing in this event how low under the 1 minute barrier the time has gone since Roman Sludnov first did it. Possible to go under 57?

Caroline Peaty

All I can say to the comments left in response to the article is that Adam Peaty will always give his 100% and that is all anyone can ask.

Craig Lord

Thanks Caroline – anyone who has ever met him would get that fairly quickly 🙂 Great job all round

Rob

“Just because I have got the world record now it doesn’t mean I’m going to get gold so I am going to get my head down again and make sure I get that medal.”

“If at Worlds I do that kind of performance again it is all about carrying less emotional energy through to the next day…I tried to come in this morning and do a job and that would have got me into semis at worlds so job done this morning.”

Sounds like someone who is switched on enough to take learning points from a WR swim, and who will work to be his best in Kazan and for the ultimate prize in Rio. And, to echo Caroline’s post, that’s all anyone can ask.

Craig Lord

aswimfan, Adam has an agent, he is Rob Woodhouse, the 400IM Olympic bronze medallist for Australia 1984, and agent to Becky Adlingon and others…. excellent choice.

Danjohnrob

Caroline Peaty, If you are related to Adam, please tell him everybody in the US is awed by his accomplishment (and worried about how far our medley relay will be behind after the breaststroke leg, to be honest). My sincerest congratulations go out to him! 🙂

aswimfan

Ah Rob Woodhouse. Of course I am very familiar with him (not in person). Yes, excellent choice indeed. Rob’s nephew and niece are in the current Australia world championships team.
🙂

Viva la Bang

Unless a Russian unknown comes out and swims 57.6!

john26

It’s a bit stretch to say this swim was “beamonesque”.

Not to downplay this swim- I gasped and thought it was spam when I first saw the number that came up here at swimvortex. It is the largest drop in a 100m WR in recent memory, and the majority of his competitors haven’t even found out how to go sub59.

This swim is no beamonesque because we knew it was coming. Sprenger, and to a lesser extent, van der burg have been talking about it for years. We all know that the breaststroke has undergone a revolution since 2012, and it really wouldn’t surprise me to see all 6 records go down this summer.

The only swim I figure is actually beamonesque since 2009 is the Sarah Sjostrom 50fly. That one was just so anomalous (esp with respect w/ 50freestyle times) that it could easily stand for 25 years. On the other hand, we’re already looking to Peaty to break more milestones and get down to 57mid.

aswimfan

I agree with John26… strictly beamonesque, Sjostrom’s 50 fly record is the only one in the past 5 years.

100m breast would be truly beamonesque if it’s dropped to at least 57.50.
Maybe this summer?

Craig Lord

May well be a bit of a stretch but we always know something is coming, John26 … and neither you nor anyone else apart from Mel Marshall (and the man himself) thought this would come right now, April 2015 – swimmers talk about possible times all the time, of course … doing it is something else. I don’t expect a flood of 57s to follow … we’re sill awaiting a flood of 58s, I seem to recall…
Look at the 100m free: we have that 47.10; we have a fair few 47.5 to 48 folk; and a 2015 world ranks in which all top 20 are 48 plus at this stage in the season.
Men 100br: one 57.92; next in 59.1 so far … and a top 20 spread to over 1:00.50, more than 2.5 spread as opposed to spreads of around 1 to 1.2sec in all other strokes.

aswimfan

I truly believed that Peaty would break the WR, but yes, I did not expect him to go sub 58 this early.

commonwombat

Thoroughly agree with those sounding cautionary notes re “he’s a lock for Gold !!”.

Form, like most commodities, is “finite” and therefore will have an expiry date. Whether that comes before Kazan or Rio, we cannot know. Ditto for Ledecky. In no way is this meant as a “diss” to either but merely a statement of realities when it comes to sporting careers.

Ledecky has been to the “big ones” but we are yet to see how Peaty handles Worlds and Olympics especially with an enormous target painted on his back …. and British media pressure.

Re Furniss’ statement re QT’s; one can acknowledge his points about “challenging people, However, given the very uneven state of the GBR program the arbitrary standard set was arguably unrealistic/unachievable for where GBR currently sits in far too many events.

Craig Lord

commonwombat – ‘cautionary notes’ apply to everyone but history is also full of folk who stacked up … I think the swimmer’s take on it is the perfect one… ‘a moment to be very pleased indeed but … feet on ground, head down’. One of the most important aspects of the theme you raise is what the article alludes to … the swimmer’s nature, his approach to what he wants to achieve, the nature of his goal … and the nature and approach of all those around him, namely, this is a swimmer who takes on not only the concept and an understanding of the hard times and tough stuff, the need for them and to get through it all – but embraces it, welcomes it. I think that those able to do that feel far less of the damaging kind of ‘pressure’ comme the big moment because they know without a doubt that they have given it all they have got and that will not change in the race ahead of them, no matter what the result ends up being. And as his mum says: you can’t ask for more than that. As for media pressure in Kazan… I doubt that: there’ll be hardly any British media there beyond the usual handful. The scrum only happens at the Olympics

MPalota

“Beamonesque” was Mary T. Meagher’s 100 & 200 ‘fly back in 1981. Those were mind-blowing.

For the record, I think we may see a “Beamonesque” swim from Katie Ledecky this summer or next.

Chris

I think that the large drop in the WR is of note and he deserves all credit for this. I remember watching Olympics in 96 and 2000 where the minute barrier had yet to be breached.

Torchbearer

I think Ledeckys 1500m WR is pretty much Beamonesque too….must seem it to the other girls anyway!
On Peaty, it is interesting to see if a low pressure WR in a national meet transfers to the biggest stages. I remember watching Trickett and Sullivan smashing WRs in the 50m and 100m at national Olympic Trials for a total of zero golds at the Olympics.

aswimfan

well yes, if we can call only two swimming world records as beamonesque, those would be meagher’s two WRs.

Craig Lord

Yes, aswimfan, they are the standout examples. There are several other candidates for the club, such as Janet Evans’ marks, 400, 800, 1500 … Egerszegi’s 200 back from 1991 … I think the test is longevity and not just whether the protagonist can repeat the record speed but how long it takes for not just one other (though that an important factor) to surpass the mark but how long it takes the wave to wash over the record … Meagher, Evans, Egerszegi times, all still very competitive today and would still win the vast majority of national championships in the world and even make podiums at major international events …. I think we may be able to say the same of Adam Peaty’s time a decade from now when it comes to the wave of folk that make his time ‘normal’ in the realms of an annual world top 20.

aswimfan

I was intrigued to compare how strong those legendary WRs stack against each other.

One of the best criteria for a “Beamonesque” WR is certainly longevity. But we also have measuring tool for the strength of a women WR: comparing it with the corresponding male WR and see in percentage how much slower it is. The lower the percentage, the stronger the women WR against another.

So I’ve done the calculation:

Meagher’s 100 fly WR (57.93) is 7.66% slower than the men 100 fly WR at that time (52.81)

Meagher’s 200 fly WR (2:05.96) is 6.74% slower than the men WR (1:58.01)

Evans’ 400 free WR (4:03.85) is 7.45% slower than the men WR (3:46.95)

Egerszegi’s 200 back WR (2:06.62) is 7.94% slower than the men WR (1:57.30)

So, the winner HANDS DOWN is Meagher’s 200 fly.
Everyone bow down to the Madame Butterfly.
It took a legend Susie O’Neill repeated attempts, a 2000 speedo body suit and a 19 years to shave Meagher’s WR just by 0.15 seconds.
2:05.96 is the swimming version of Beamon WR.

As a comparison, Ledecky’s brand new 400 free WR (3:58.37) is 8.31% slower than Thorpe’s 13 years old WR (3:40.08).

So, despite seemingly crazy fast Ledecky’s WRs, it confirms my early suspicion that Ledecky’s WRs are “merely” putting women middle distance WR progression back to its natural progression after years of Evans’ WRs standing, instead of being a Beamonesque one.

Another alternative to explain is that Thorpe’s WR is truly Beamonesque, after all, the 3:40.08 is -by far- the longest standing men WR in the history of swimming.

I did not make comparison of 800 and 1,500 free WR because:
1. 800 free is not a men’s Olympics event, and
2. 1,500 free is not a women’s Olympics event
And so making strength comparison between men and women WRs in those events would produce misleading results.

aswimfan

Judging by current 400 WR comparison between men and women and judging by how stronger she is in distance events as well as by the fact that she keeps getting faster in 200, I think Ledecky can bring down 400 WR to 3:56 by the end of her career.

aswimfan

I agree with whoever has the opinion that Ledecky’s 1500 WR is the strongest of her WRs and her 800 WR is her weakest one.

Craig Lord

aswim fan… very nice but if you mention suits and mention O’Neill’s suit you would certainly have to mention Thorpey’s

aswimfan

I have no qualms mentioning Thorpe’s bodysuit as I think he would have gone faster in today’s jammers.

aswimfan

Thorpe swam 3:41 in banana hammock at the age of 16 turning 17, and he was only swimming 3:40 in his Adidas bodysuit at the prime age and physical peak of 18 and 19.

aswimfan

Also, today’s female swimsuits are not that much different compared to those 2000s body suits, with only leg cover being the difference.

There was a proposal during 2009 by Forbes Carlisle to limit female suit coverage back to pre 2000 model, but of course it was no go as speedo/arena etc would not be able to charge upwards usd300 for such suits.

longstroke

Mike Barrowman’s times in the 200BS have to be up there. He first broke the world record in 1989 and kept bringing it down, the last time in 1992 at the Barcelona Olympics where he swam 2.10.16. That record stood for 10 years until Kitajima came along.

aswimfan

Lomgstroke,

Correct. Barrowman’s WR is the second longest standing at 10 years 2 months and change.

Third longest is Lamberti ‘s WR which stood for more than 9 years and 7 months until Hackett hack it (sorry couldn’t resist)

But if you count only textile, PVDH’ s WR stood second longest for 11 years before Magnussen cleared it by a wide margin.

However, unlike Thorpe’s WR which we all 100% know would have stood until now, so many swimmers went under pvdh record in shiny suit and 2 of them, Cielo and Sullivan, went so far below it, we are not sure if 47.84 would have survived 2008/2009 onslaught.

john26

At this point, we might not see Thorpe’s record go down under 2020. Crocker’s 50.40 is doing quite well too.

Anyone want to guess how long Zhang Lin’s WR is going to stand?

aswimfan

Zhang Lin record will stand for eternity. Only half joking of course.

Even Ledecky only cleared 27 years old Evans record by less than 5 seconds in a longer time, but Zhang Lin cleared 4 years old Hackett record by 6 seconds (and took 7 seconds off 8 years old Thorpe record) in a shorter time. Even Yang, for whom I think 800 free is the perfect event, and on trimetazidine, was nowhere near 7:32

aswimfan

Whoaaaa… I totally forgot about Crocker’s record!

It’s gonna be 10 years old this July. And it does not seem anyone will be able to crack Crocker’s record this year or next.

It’s really unfortunate that he didn’t win that Athens gold. I truly felt for him.

Danjohnrob

I feel bad that Crocker didn’t wear a full LZR racer like Lauterstein did in the 100 fly final in Beijing, because if he had he would not have lost to him by 1 hundreth of a second and would have finished his career on the podium instead of 4th. Maybe it would have been a little less comfortable, but I think he could have gotten used to it!

Danjohnrob

By the way, I’m hoping Phelps makes breaking Crocker’s 100 fly textile record one of his goals for the Rio Olympics!

felixtzu

It’s funny how when there is steady progress in an event everyone is pulled along, but sometimes after a big leap no one else can conceptualise a challenge. When Crocker and Phelps pushed each other on the event was so exciting, but now it’s as if it is in global recession.

Also believe the 200 fly record and textile best will last out another generation.

aswimfan

I agree. I think Phelps’ 200 fly textile will last a long time.

As a swimming fan and statistics and history fan, I am frustrated that shiny suits truly screwed up with history continuity and comparisons. Now we never know what Phelps’ 400 IM textile best time would have been. Could Phelps have gone faster than his 2007 time, or is Lochte’s textile record is the legitimate one. Truly frustrating.

felixtzu

I wouldn’t want to take it away from Lochte, but I imagine Phelps had a slightly faster potential than his own 2007 time, if only because at worlds the 400IM comes at the end of the week.

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